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  • #35359
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    If things get hot with nukes it might be the only method of survival. And yes I would rather deal wth the aftermath then be incinerated at the beginning.

    #35367
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    If nukes were involved, then yes I’d much rather be in one of those facilities, Any scenario that those folks have in mind needs to be one that gives them enough notice to make their way to the facility, and enough faith in the mgt. folks running it that the deal will be honored. Its all academic for me being its not an option I have.

    #35368
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    I still think that the elites are only interested in the 99% dieing and the nuclear bombs are not the way to go since the radiation would stay around for 100’s of years and they would have to live underground. Even underground doesn’t mean the water on Earth will not get radiation so the nuclear bomb is not good. Now a cyber attack or EMP will kill many and they can with time bring everything back since they must have all data backed up and underground.

    #35369
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>MountainBiker wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>Brulen wrote:</div>I remember an article awhile back about Bill Gates having 6 private jets available at his private airstripe to take him, his family and friends/associates out of the country on short notice.

    Do you know anything more about this? Where is it they plan to go?

    I think it was Cuba. Doesn’t Richard Branson own a private island nearby? Virgin Galactic. By now they might have an orbiting bunker or a section on the ISS.

    #35381
    Tolik
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    Yes but many helped cause the problem . With full knowledge , the very people with the means and power to actually make a serious change for their countries …………do nothing but perpetuate the system ….greed has no patriotism . They have no patriotism or loyalty ……..or they would be doing something ……but they do not . why should they get away scott free ? I stand by my statement . Just sayin .

    #35382
    Whirlibird
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>Tolik wrote:</div>Yes but many helped cause the problem . With full knowledge , why should they get away scott free ? Just sayin .

    So who else shouldn’t get away scott free?
    Prove their full intent, prove criminal intent, just cause they have money doesn’t mean squat.

    Couplenof years ago I helped a friend pick up a kid who skipped out on bond.
    Seems the kid only robbed people who deserved it, rich people.
    The last person he robbed, an 80 year old woman, cause she was rich.
    He beat her so bad she spent 3 months in the hospital. Cause she was rich.
    He took the $208 in her purse cause she was rich.
    He took her jewelry cause she was rich.
    His justification for everything he did, was cause they were rich they deserved it.

    I originally had a long paragraph written about her.
    Not worth it.

    You want to kill a pedophile, that’s easy to justify. You want to kill someone out of vengeance for some imagined or assumed wrong?
    Just sayin,

    #35383
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    The world seems to be going down in a creeping apocalypse rather than a series of sudden bangs. The rich probably won’t get to their BO locations any faster than you or I. But if they want to use their money to build survival shelters for their full time employees and their families who maintain them then why not. Individuals survive while the subsidized scum perish. The money gets spent one way or another. In John Galt’s world the government rulers counted on the herd to stay in place while the implosion of the economy occurred. They demanded it. The little guy was supposed to feel guilty even when he was being ditched. LOL

    The US is a society that takes retribution and vengeance seriously. What goes around comes around, as they say.

    #35386
    Tolik
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    Unless its a nuclear war , that is what is happening , the slow creeping collapse , the crative ways of keeping the artery from blowing will eventually fail , but continue to keep the downhill run with a few brakes still working ……..only a matter of time tho .

    As to the question who else ? do you really need to ask that ?
    Anybody in government who ever voted for unconstitutional tyranny , anybody in DHS , ATF , and some of the other Fascist organizations .

    #35387
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    Most people with money don’t have any influence on politics, the economy or anything else. They’re just as stuck as anyone else. If they prepare for shtf they can spend more money on their stuff. The super rich like Soros, Gates, Rockefellers, you’ll never get near them. Influence peddlers? who did what?

    If you want to know who did and who Is wreaking the county look at the roll calls for ayes and neys on legislation.

    #35390
    Whirlibird
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>Tolik wrote:</div>Unless its a nuclear war , that is what is happening , the slow creeping collapse , the crative ways of keeping the artery from blowing will eventually fail , but continue to keep the downhill run with a few brakes still working ……..only a matter of time tho .

    As to the question who else ? do you really need to ask that ?<br>
    Anybody in government who ever voted for unconstitutional tyranny , anybody in DHS , ATF , and some of the other Fascist organizations .

    Actually yes.

    What if a person wasn’t voting for tyrany, but voting their conscience? Their beliefs may not mirror yours.

    Anybody at ATF, DHS? Does that include the cleaning staff? The clerks? The telephone operators?

    What makes your version of right any less tyranical?
    Seems to resemble the French Revolution and mob rule.
    Seems to resemble a couple of other groups who took offense with certain people.

    Its a slippery slope, once you start down it.

    #35398
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    As an individual who leans Libertarian, my philosophy is if you are doing no harm to anyone, you are free to spend your money and efforts how ever you choose. As someone said, the super rich are so well insulated, that you will never be able to get close to them.

    They are doing exactly what we would do if we were in their position. They may be the ultimate peppers. They people the next rung down, are clueless, and spending their vast wealth on frivolous homes and condos that are unsustainable in any kind of serious event.

    #35400
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    I also lean in the Libertarian philosophy. There are small parts of the Libertarian party I have some problems with but do like a lot of there way. I have a problem when the very wealthy try to change laws to there liking or try in the elections to put there money on something that the people do not all agree on or is in the constitution like gun laws.

    #35409
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    freedom, the poor try to get laws changed to suit themselves too. They just use different and usually much messier means than the rich.

    I’ve known some wealthy folks, both inherited and self made, who have been mighty fine folks who are generous with their time and money to the community. One couple I know whose wealth was largely tied up in the business that they had grown left millions of dollars on the table when they wanted to retire. They knew if they sold the company to a competitor most of the local jobs would be lost in the ensuing consolidation. They instead did an ESOP, which is selling the company to the employees. They never said a word to the employees what the deal cost them. Wealth in and of itself does not make someone a bad person. Some are bad, but so isn’t that the case with some poor people too. Good and bad come in all flavors.

    Come SHTF in a way that the old world isn’t coming back, none of my energy will be given over to pursuing any real or perceived grievances. My focus will be taking care of me and mine and to the extent I can some neighbors and friends.

    The rich only concern me to the extent they may know things I don’t have access to and so I am interested in what kinds of bolt hole plans they may have.

    #35420
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    MountainBiker, I don’t have a problem with the rich but only have a problem when they use there wealth and power to change laws or the power to have politicians change the laws for them.

    I do not have a problem if they are communist, socialist or whatever they want to be but do not use your wealth and power to try to change the world to your ideas.

    There are very good wealthy people in this world. Many build businesses that employ many and that is one of the most important jobs that the wealthy have in this world is to help others that do not have the capacity to do the same. That is what God would want them to do.

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