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    Using Federal Supermacy over state law, States will eventually not exist as a governmental function.

    “Environmentalist lawyers have been pushing a legal theory that would give the Environmental Protection Agency cover to regulate every facet of state energy policy — effectively eliminating states’ authority to craft their own regulations.

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    74, while you were posting that, I was separately working on exactly the same concept over in the “All water is now owned by the Feds” thread. It’s a somewhat long post, and does tough on other highly related areas, but I just sat back and smiled when I checked for any further updates to the Forum before going off to do other things today. The above link goes directly to my just-completed post. Great post (yours) – much thanks!

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    I had the “pleasure” of experiencing the Sierra Club do battle with a client who wanted to build a new coal plant. Their lawyers used every trick in the book to fight it, and eventually the client caved after a multi-year, multi million dollar court battle that was constantly delayed.

    These people want to use anyone or anything to shut down every coal plant in the country, and the EPA are willing accomplices.

    I find it ironic that once again the debate about State’s Right has moved to the forefront. Whether it’s water, or energy an out of control federal government is trying to impose it’s will on the states.

    And many brain dead citizens are willing to help. Here in Indiana the State Attorney General is running for Congress to battle the take over of water resources. He is being criticized in some circles by people with the rationale that since the Feds provided the money for the I-69 expansion they should be able to manage the water quality in the state. You can’t make this stuff up.

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    My problem with the envirocrazies is that they are against everything. They are all for solar but then try to stop every solar project comes along on a “we want solar, but not there” premise. They want to shut down any coal or oil fired power plants but then fight any proposed pipeline that will bring natural gas to power plants or consumers. And of course natural gas is too dangerous to be moved above ground by truck or train they say. They like wind power, but again “not there”. In a State comprised of mountains, it seems every single ridge is something special that needs to be preserved from the horrors of wind turbines. Hydro power is good but they don’t like dams so we can’t do that. Quebec has lots of hydro power to send down to New England, but the envirocrazies are fighting hard to stop construction of power lines to bring it down in what’s called the Northern Pass project. Put those lines carrying hydro power underground? Nope, can’t do that either. That project would be tunneled underneath Lake Champlain and then run underground alongside an existing highway. Can’t have a power project near the lake they say.

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    74, thanks for posting that great article! MB, the envirocrazies are just the useful idiots in this political power takeover.

    Call it “liberalism,” “socialism,” “communism,” or fascism.” It doesn’t matter — the practice won’t precisely follow any of the textbook definitions (as none of the leading historical examples ever did) because once a single dictator, or a small group, has acquired power to impose his/its will, there is no longer any “script” which must be followed. And that’s the point. Power may be used to accomplish all the wonderful, noble changes that were promised as its benefit — but it doesn’t have to be used in that way. It can be used in any way the dictator whims. The “environmental movement,” despite its reasonable beginnings, has been hijacked to become a stalking horse for the power-mad.

    The idea of taking care of our environment, the earth, has a fundamental truth as its basis: We’ve only one planetary home (at least until we humans develop vastly greater technology) and it behooves us not to screw it up. So it wasn’t begun entirely off base. There are places where human activity, unchecked, has caused ruination of the local environment. Witness the Sahara desert, which was formerly the “breadbasket” of the Roman Empire.

    But the political “environmental” movement has a hidden agenda: acquisition of greater governmental power over the governed. Notice that the movement has its greatest emphasis, its greatest concentration and power where the people had (i.e., used to have) the greatest leverage over their government, and where there is, so to speak, the greatest change of political power “needed,” in order for the desired “transformation” to happen. In fact, the “environmental” push to take energy and water away from the people is almost perfectly proportional, across the planet, to the extent that they have had the political power to improve their physical situation. The poorer the people, the easier it is to control them. Have you heard of a Saudi, Iranian, or North Korean environmental movement?

    So false reports and theories of human activity causing planetary “warming” are published after countless grant-funded”studies.” TV programs, newspapers, and scholarly tomes, by the thousands have been cranked out, almost on command, to confirm the threat of “anthropogenic global warming.” Meanwhile, any dissenting academic, regardless of credentials, risks being fired, to make even a clear, documented case to the contrary. If it were truly being treated as a scientific matter, it would be anathema to edit and fake the data.

    Notice that no matter what anyone proposes — power, manufacturing, logging, ranching, mining, fracking, dams, airports, even repairing existing highways, (with the possible exception of “affordable” housing, which is housing you can’t afford), there will be an environmental group, if not ten, in opposition. So we can no longer generate electricity with coal; we must use windmills, which makes the power cost more, and kills birds. Or we must allow Chinese companies to build solar collector farms, which will kill desert tortoises, necessitating removing ranchers from nearby land, to be declared to be”compensating” tortoise refuge (never mind that the tortoises live better where the cattle are allowed to graze.) The point is: unregulated (i.e., free) people don’t know enough to provide for their needs, without screwing up the environment. So you can only have what your all-knowing government chooses to allow you — and they can change their minds as often as they wish.

    There are only two kinds of people in the world; those of us who just want to be left alone…and those who won’t leave us alone.* — Ernest Hancock

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