January 9, 2015 at 11:22 am #33995
The US is spreading the war to Syria. For Islamics to pull off a terror attack in France seems justified in some way. As the Bible would say …. you reap what you sow.
Military tactics can be separated from religion.January 9, 2015 at 11:34 am #33996
A population that doesn’t watch the news is a population that is blind. Even if the news is lies or half truth and half lies. You will live a life of knowing only what is happening in your little town or city which is what the elites would love for the population to do. The elite would love for the population to be as uneducated about the news as possible.
If no news then you would not know of what happen in 911, what happen in 2008 rescission, that the country was in two wars, who and what president we have and what he or she is doing to the country. If you want to live blind in a small town or farm that is fine but I want to know what is happening.
Dictators, Socialist, and Communist would love for all of there people to turn off the news, the internet, forums like this on, have the population blind only thinking about there little world. I say NO!! The news, the internet are very important and we the people need to stay updated and be able to tell the lies from the truth. That is freedom.January 9, 2015 at 11:50 am #33998
freedom we are all combatants whether we want to be or not and the world is full of lies. Those two things you can count on.January 9, 2015 at 12:28 pm #33999
While I believe everything you said is true regarding the manipulation of people by the media and political powers. It doesn’t lessen my desire to try to understand the world in which we live.January 9, 2015 at 12:30 pm #34000
Multiculturalism is something that can make great nations, anywhere. – Selco
Not trying to pick a fight my friend, but I have to disagree.
Historically, the strongest and most successful nations are those who have been homogenous – one culture, one people with common history, background, belief system, etc. In America, we had waves of immigrants, but they were almost all European, either from Eastern or Western Europe. If you saw someone, chances are he was a white guy, a European, and a Christian of some flavor. The rest is minor, quibbling details. They assimilated into our culture just fine.
When talking about “multiculturalism”, once the conversation moves past “ethnic food”, anyone advocating for multiculturalism is hard pressed to come up with one single advantage that it has over a homogenous nation. (And as if people are incapable of cooking the foods of other nations and ethnicities… this is like saying only Italians can make pizza correctly, or only a Greek can make lamb correctly… which is ridiculous… ).
In point of fact, multiculturalism is a meme – dezinformatsiya left over from the bad old Soviet days… “diversity is our strength”… really? Having a bunch of squabbling tribes, promoting discord, all at each others throats is a strength?
We laugh at the old, quaint notions of Evil Bad Guy Soviets plotting to overthrow the West. It’s so Cold War, right? But Cultural Marxism is no less a Death Culture than economic Marxism, and anyone pushing it – wittingly or otherwise – is inadvertently pushing for a Death Culture.
Quote: Indeed, the index of Soviet success is that most of us no longer think of these memes as Communist propaganda. It takes a significant amount of digging and rethinking and remembering, even for a lifelong anti-Communist like myself, to realize that there was a time (within the lifetime of my parents) when all of these ideas would have seemed alien, absurd, and repulsive to most people — at best, the beliefs of a nutty left-wing fringe, and at worst instruments of deliberate subversion intended to destroy the American way of life.
There must be some kind of level under which is can not be “worked” on that multiculturalism,if that do not work it is not enough to leave that people somewhere to practice their way of living (part of the towns, neighborhoods etc) because it will explode sooner or later.
The only way that multiple cultures can co-exist peacefully is if there is a strong overarching authority that forces the cultures to live in peace – if they fear the strong authority more than each other, then there is relative peace. If you remove that authority or it weakens on its own – via economic disaster, some natural disaster, etc – then those differing cultures will go back to tearing each other’s throats out… you have seen this, first hand.
Living under a strict authoritarian government just so you can have neighbors of some other culture is a strength or an advantage? Since when? I would rather have the alternative – a homogenous nation with no need for a strict authoritarian government. They’re not needed because homogenous nations live in peace by default.
If you give too much freedom to someone, soon they gonna want to took more freedom from you with force, or to install their views to you, with force.
The magical number is 40%.
When a group of “others” moves into a largely homogenous country and their numbers are small, they keep their heads down and stay quiet. They’re outnumbered, and they know it.
As their numbers, and their percentage of the population, grows larger, you start getting the “others” targeting the hated majority. Crimes against people and property start going up. Little enclaves start popping up – “No Go” areas for the natives and even the police.
Their numbers grow larger, and you start getting riots, demonstrations in the streets, arson, even street fights.
Once the number of “others” gets to about 40% – why it’s 40%, I do not know… it just is – the government has to clamp down and become overbearing and authoritarian to keep the peace between the native population and “others”. So long as the belligerents fear the government more than they fear each other, there will be an uneasy peace. Remove that, and all of hell will break loose…
The only solution, that I can see, is that the “others” need to go. Humanely and peacefully, but they have to go.
The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1January 9, 2015 at 12:39 pm #34002
i can’t agree with multiculturalism. I’m not saying peopole have to forget where they come from but if you move to a country to live you should be a part of that country. It may sound a little harsh but look at what is happening in America. Individualism and diversity are being pushed and it is getting to where being a patriot is considered offensive. Don’t move to America and try to turn it into what ever country you left. If that country was so great, why did you leave. Come to America to be an American.January 9, 2015 at 12:56 pm #34003
I think I understand Selco’s comment about multiculturalism, though please correct me if I am wrong Selco. Multiculturalism for some means different from different backgrounds people living together in peace, each of whom respects the other’s differences. The problem is that while liberals and mislimes like to tout the word and accuse conservatives and Patriots of being bigots, the truth is that neither liberals nor muslimes actually believe their own lie. Both liberals and muslimes simply use the word to hide their true intention which is to force their belief system on everyone else. The proof is clear for anyone with eyes to see though two short examples should prove the point.
First, an avoid liberal, Margaret Sanger, created Planned Parenthood ostensibly for the purpose of protecting women’s “rights”, when in reality she has been quoted as saying the purpose of PP was to eliminate “undesirables” especially the black population, from America by using abortions. Muslimes do a similar thing in that they preach tolerance at the same time they destroy all signs of Christianity in muslime countries and behead apostates who reject islime and become Christians.
I believe it is clear that multiculturalism has been used by liberals and muslimes for their evil purposes, so let us be careful in its use for many will misunderstand our intentions which, unlike liberals and muslimes, are benign, while the latter are purely evil.
For God, Family, Country, & Liberty!January 9, 2015 at 1:00 pm #34004
Americans need to stop thinking that we are “Americans” and totally separate from anyone else.
We are, in fact, part of the Greater European Brotherhood and a product of The Enlightenment. Nothing like it has ever happened in the last 6,000 years of human history…
The Continental Europeans look at us as uncouth provincial rubes or “ex-colonials” (yes, I had a Brit refer to me as an “ex-colonial” once). We look at them as snotty, arrogant Euros high on the smell of their own shyte…
It’s time we stopped that. Both sides. Because if America falls, then so does the West. If our ancestral homelands are overrun by invaders, then we have no home.
Aside from that, there is nothing wrong with classical, liberal (Jeffersonian) Individualism… the rugged individualist is what built this country. It is radical individualism that is poison. “Diversity” is a Stalin-era meme left over from the bad old days that has been taken up as the rallying cry for “Progressives”… oppose “diversity”, and you are branded a “racist”… which is just a Word of Power used to shut down a conversation. In today’s world, if someone isn’t called a “racist” at one point or another, then they’re simply not a decent human being…
The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1January 9, 2015 at 1:02 pm #34005
So many things going on now in France. Crazy.
Here is a livestream from Paris.
@Malgus, well said. United we stand, divided we fall.
Alea iacta est ("The die has been cast")January 9, 2015 at 1:10 pm #34009
Jay, bearing in mind Selco’s comment about keeping our minds clear, let’s consider muslim philosophy before we allow any muslims into our countries.
The fact is that muslims live under the tenants of islam as told by Mohammed. Their philosophy includes taqiyya, which is lying so long as it benefits islam. They are also told they must “fight them until all is islam”. Leaving out many other troublesome tenants of islam, these two alone are cause for concern as together they prove, at least to me, that muslimes cannot ever be trusted regardless of what they say.
For that reason, I must disagree with one remark you made suggesting muslims must pass some form of psychological evaluation before allowing them into our countries. Based on my assessment, I suggest that islam is totally incompatible with Western civilization meaning we would be wise to prevent them from even entering our countries, much less live there.
That is what I believe. Having said that I am willing to consider the comments of you and all our members.
I hear you and I agree. The point is just that there are several different interpretations of the quran and some are really really peaceful. If you take what is written there word by word and people use this to guide their lives then yes they are not compatible at all with the western world and our ideas of freedom.
Its just a dangerous road we are heading down if we put all muslims in one bag if you know what I mean. So individual testing or even evaluation camps would make sense. Of course the people who want to move to our countries would have to pay for this themselves. No money back if you fail.
Alea iacta est ("The die has been cast")January 9, 2015 at 1:22 pm #34010
Multiculturalism for some means different from different backgrounds people living together in peace, each of whom respects the other’s differences. – Ghost Prime
That’s the problem, right there… “respecting other’s differences” is projecting your values on someone else who very likely does not have your system of values.. It is an Enlightenment way of thinking that is being applied to a people who have never gone through an Enlightenment. You “respecting” their differences in no way guarantees reciprocation…
Also, I can see a bit of the old Stalinist memetic weapons in there… that being:
There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.
Which is wrong. Western Civilization is superior to anything the Muslims currently have going, especially Sharia… not all cultures are equal. If another culture were the equal of Western Civilization, then they are due respect. If not – and they live like 7th century barbarians – then they are not due respect. It’s that simple.
You were going pretty good there, regarding Progs and Muzzies, but then you derailed…
“Multiculturalism” is not a good that has been misused for evil purposes. It is an evil that is being used for it’s intended purpose, that being evil.
The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1January 9, 2015 at 1:44 pm #34011
Yea, my words are not understood maybe, again, English is not my native language, so very often I miss many words to say something, and then I must say it short, in short way, sometimes loosing main point.
With multiculturalism I mean people are free to follow their culture but have to be integrated into the culture of country they are living in. It means nothing wrong with different believes if they do not go against core values of the place where people live.
If man comes to my country from the far away, and wants to be part of society, to contribute, to live by the law and everything else it can be OK.
If whole bunch of people come to my country, form their neighborhoods, laws, and start to manipulate with my way of living, start to force their culture over my culture they do not have any reason to be here.
They need to go, or even better, they should not be allowed to come to my country at the first place.
I still think that multiculturalism can be good think, can make great nations. But this situation what we have today in Europe is not multiculturalism. It is one culture that is not compatible with our way of living trying to force their way of living to us.January 9, 2015 at 1:52 pm #34012
Hegelian Dialectic… as usual
Problem – Reaction – Solution
as Selco mentioned about time to “think clearly”
we must to understand that so called “Military Industrial Complex” need some big war to get profit
( because they sell weapon… so big war means big profit )
also the so called “elite”, need some big war
to “clean” their messed accounting problem
( like they do in Building 7 )
why its easy to make conclusion that this terror attack are problem – reaction – solution ?
its easy… if it is true that muslim done that
what “benefit” they get ?
USA or NATO alliance reatreat from muslim world ?
the truth is… this terror attack become an excuse to wage a bigger war
every prepper must understand that “false flag” operation
are “scripted” to make some objective and bigger purpose
( like scraping first and second amandment, declare martial law or just ethnic cleansing like NAZI does by demonizing jew )January 9, 2015 at 2:04 pm #34013
another “indicator” to make such conclusion
are leader of france will likely declare prohibiting gun ( or stricken it )
or any law that nothing to do with muslim
( so the law will apply to all citizen without exception )
like in USA or UK
there will be big false flag event ( maybe in sept 2015 or even march) that blamed to ISIS
the casualties ( maybe ) reach 12.000 died
so that any law or declaration of war will be “signed”
the other objective are to lock down whole city ( under martial law )
so every house can be search ( not just muslim house )
and if there any gun can be seized
and as usual
we will realize it when it is too late
( this event really take place )January 9, 2015 at 2:25 pm #34017
“every prepper must understand that “false flag” operation are “scripted” to make some objective and bigger purpose” – “the truth is… this terror attack become an excuse to wage a bigger war” – ronym
I doubt that there is a immediate connection between the perpetrators in France and the US or NATO. But I don’t think you are entirely wrong either ronym. Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq have all been destabilized by the US, instilling and exacerbating violent clashes. It’s highly probable the US supplied arms to ISIS from Libya. It was only a matter of time before acts of terrorism erupted in a western nation again inspired by the success of violence in other countries. .
What do Muslims gain:
“Qiamat the Shiite prophecy that Iran will lead an End Times war against Islam’s enemies. At that time, the Mahdi will “reappear” and defeat the infidel”.
“Shias believe the Mahdi will return in the last days to establish righteousness, justice, and peace. When he comes, they say, the Mahdi will bring Jesus with him. Jesus will be a Muslim and will serve as his deputy, not as King of kings and Lord of lords as the Bible teaches, and he will force non-Muslims to choose between following the Mahdi or death.”
Just one possible motivation.
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