“when you are faced with a man who wants to kill you, you are going to have to probably kill him in order to survive.

I hope that, in this moment, you will not care for philosophy, humanity or ethics, and that you just going do what you have to do, and survive.” Selco

These two paragraphs sum it up for me. Recognize that you have arrived at the moment where there can be no more deliberation. I hope it never comes to that time.

Very true , sadly , it depends on the persons nature , there are a lot of people that lack a strong survival instinct , and they are preyed upon , but at the same time , depending on the situation , its a judgement call , your nature and humanity will have to make the call . Depending on the situation , a good cop will give the other person every opportunity to stand down , the bad cop will just unload on them , without giving a crap . Both are trained , but its their nature that makes the call , Every situation will be different , and not all will be as clear cut as a him or you , like you mentioned , people can be deceptive . Thats why I like animals more than people lol …….what you see is what you get , no hidden agenda lol .

The good cop will and should react to someone trying to kill them the same way we should, just as you say the bad cop will. Just unloading on them.

Hesitation gets you killed. You, me, Clancy on the beat. Anyone.

Bad guy might be my kids teacher last week, this week he’s pulling a knife on me.
I hesitate because he’s a nice guy when he’s on his meds, I may not make it home to see my kids again.

I don’t care who or what you are.
You attack or threaten me or mine, and I will “unload” on you. Be it with a firearm, a wilted carrot or my bare hands.

After the attack, we can discuss humanity.
I may even provide first aid, it does go with my training.
But until the threat is over, no quarter is given or offered.
The bad guy had ample opportunity to choose a different victim, to be a good guy, to take their meds, etc.

Start the fight, probably not.
End the fight? By hook or by crook I will.