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tweva, sorry if I misunderstood where you were coming from, but an emp is my absolutely worse fear being the chances of recovery are slim to none. However, sometimes I do think how pleasantly simple life was in the pre-internet days when I didn’t know what I know now. Last weekend I was on the party circuit visiting 3 households in MA & NH for cookouts and found myself thinking how nice and simple the lives were of the friends & relatives that I was visiting, their all being oblivious to the threats that loom.