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Yes Selco, it is amazing that we’re considered the crazy people. Some people are just not wired to think that maybe the future doesn’t look like the immediate past, and that yes bad things can and do happen to entire countries. Long before I became a prepper I just knew that something different (and not good) was coming, though I had no idea what that was. I no longer try to convince anyone to prepare or to become more self reliant. If they show any interest I am glad to help but otherwise I just quietly keep plugging along on making myself and my home more self reliant.