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  • #39687
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    WhiteKnight
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    Read David Kupelian’s “The Marketing of Evil.” Hands down my second favorite book of all time. This book sums up the extremely complex and exhaustive explanation of why the Judeo-Christian values that this country was founded upon were attacked and destroyed; and how they replaced them with atheistic communism, abortion, homosexuality, drugs, lies… in a word, evil.

    He pulls no punches and gets right to the roots of each problem, and is very honest and truthful in his research, not to mention professional. He also demonstrates that we can win the country back, and the simple ways how.

    #39690
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    Roadracer
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    Going to get a copy. It sounds like it could be very informative.

    #39691
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    Brulen
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    White Knight,

    I’m not even slightly Christian and I used the word apocalypse to describe the world to my wife the other day. She said the usual “nothing ever happens here” and I replied 18 trillion happened, a war is coming. The funniest part of this disconnected conversation came when I mentioned then county is putting in a 3 million emergency communication system and sending a rep to Christ Church, New Zealand for 9 days to arrange the plans. I didn’t know NZ even had an electronics industry, but then I remembered, the U.S. has an installation there. Whereas many people think the U.S.A has fallen it also has become an extremely well prepared country with Christians individually arming themselves against evil. And most of the atheists I know think of themselves as culturally …. Western/capitalist freemen not collectivist minions of satan.

    #39695
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    MountainBiker
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    What is this communication system?

    #39702
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    Brulen
    Survivalist
    member9

    What is this communication system?

    Only smert knows…..

    #39703
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Smersh ?

    #39705
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    WhiteKnight
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    rprepper

    As a fairly devout Christian, Brulen, you are right about Christians being prepared. However, there are not as many of us here as one might assume. Purportedly, roughly 7-8 in 10 Americans are “Christians.” But that is in name only. I would estimate the actual number to be 15%, probably less unfortunately. These are people who share the faith as they are commanded to by Jesus in the Bible and live the faith in their daily lives. You know, those potential terrorists that DHS says are so dangerous.

    That being said, I feel a significant revival building. I’m not exactly sure what will happen but I do know that the government hates us, just as the authorities hated Jesus. People hate the truth.

    My inner hope is that owing to being better prepared, and in being watched over by the Lord (if we are worthy), true Christians will make it through in larger numbers than anyone else, and America will rebuild and be restored. That is my hope. Will it happen? I don’t know. But I plan to attempt the rescue of as many lost souls as possible when finally money, sports, and other worldly distractions are gone.

    #39706
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    WhiteKnight
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    And although atheists are certainly not evil by default, my issue with them is that because they do not believe in God, anything can become permissible in their minds… mankind becomes their standard against which to test words and actions. Society then dictates what is right and wrong. In Nazi Germany, the people decided that Jews were repulsive and deserved to be punished. Society agreed, and so persecuting them became completely moral, and even the right thing to do. At the very least, people did not speak out against it at the beginning when they should have.

    Yes, I am aware the Germans were predominantly Christian. But only a few of them were true Christians, who resisted and/or fled. Some were killed along with the Jews. People seem to forget that the Polish Christians, who were (and still are!) very faithful, were slaughtered in numbers second only to the German Jews.

    The bottom line is that atheists, like all human beings, are capable of great good, and great evil. However, their lack of belief makes them vulnerable and more apt to commit evils.

    #39709
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    74
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    rnews

    Whitenight,
    Consideration should be given to the idea that the Nazi’s in control of the government didn’t necessarily represent the people of Germany. Hitler came to power through political mechanizations. I agree governments pass laws that are immoral if the people in government are immoral. Below is an article explaining Hitler’s rise to power.

    How Dictators Come To Power In A Democracy

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2013/02/05/how-dictators-come-to-power-in-a-democracy/

    #39710
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    MountainBiker
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    WhiteKnight, I’m not looking to get into a religious debate but I’d guess that the 85% of Christians that you reject as not being actual Christians would beg to differ with you. I know that very politically conservative Christians look down upon the rest of Christianity but having spent my life in blue territory I can attest that some of the most religious people I have ever known who absolutely live their lives as Christians are liberals when it comes to politics. They read the same bible and could come back at conservatives with their own bible passages to justify their take on the world, no different than conservatives do. Perhaps it is just human nature that people feel the need to justify their politics using religious terms . It seems to have always been that way. Both sides do it. When there is a passage they agree with they say it must be taken literally. When it is a passage they disagree with, they say that’s not what it means. Being a true Christian neither requires one have conservative or liberal political views. I consider myself a Christian and am very conservative on fiscal matters and on matters of personal responsibility and accountability. At the same time I’m OK with gay marriage for example and will agree with liberals on certain other matters. Religion and politics are not one and the same.

    #39712
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    Roadracer
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    Good point Mountain Biker. Living in a very liberal college town, I know a number of liberals and even a couple admitted Socialists that are also devout Christians. They are good decent people whose political beliefs are 180 degrees from the conservative Evangelical Christians.

    Mountain Biker like you I am very conservative on fiscal issues and Libertarian on issues like gay marriage. Having several members of my family in the LGBT community who have found happiness with a same sex partner, after horrible traditional marriages, I have come to see you cannot legislate relationships. My view if you are not harming anyone, live your life as you see fit. In the end, we will all be judged by God, so I will let Him do the judging.

    #39714
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    WhiteKnight
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    Don’t mistake what I am saying as me judging, that is God’s job. Not mine. But the Bible is God’s word, and His views on homosexuality, sex outside marriage, and other hot topics are crystal clear.

    Judging would be me saying that they are bad people. Judging would be me saying they are evil. I’m not. What I’m saying is that what they are doing is wrong, I am merely being the messenger that Jesus told us all to be.

    If you think I don’t like homosexuals, you are wrong. By that token, I would hate everyone, even myself, because we are ALL sinners. I work with a gay guy (at least, I’m 99% sure anyway haha I technically never asked) and he is my second favorite person there, helpful, nice, and generally a very agreeable person. All of us have weaknesses and sinful leanings, and it is a BITTER pill to swallow to read the Bible and have it tell you that what you are doing is sinful. I swallowed a couple of those pills and got over myself, and am happier for it. It was not easy, and some of the changes I made to every ounce of courage that I had. Some were painful. But it was more than worth it.

    People hate to hear that what they are doing is wrong and I am no exception! But I really do like people, and I am NOT any better than the homosexual, the drunkard, or even the murderer or child molester.

    I genuinely hope that I don’t step on toes but I would be lying to myself and to God if I was to speak otherwise. And, I fully understand your live and let live philosophy, and would be lucky to have any of you guys as my neighbors!

    At any rate, back to the original topic, you still should read the book, especially the section on the destruction of the family. It was, in the author’s opinion, the biggest part of the devastation, and the way in which it is being done is disturbingly cunning!

    #39716
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    WhiteKnight
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    rprepper

    And 74, yes, you are correct. Many simply were too afraid to speak against the slaughter. However, I stand by the point I attempted to illustrate with my example (though it would seem, not the best one.) And that is that without God as the center of a society, it has the potential to slowly accept the most horrifying evils imaginable. Not to mention, of course, that its leaders have a greater propensity for turning to the dark side, so to speak.

    #39720
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    MountainBiker
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    My apologies to all for getting us off on an unrelated topic. Saying the 85% of Christians aren’t actual Christians pushed a button so to speak. There are large cultural differences regionally and people approach religion much more quietly here. We are as well more oriented towards a live and let live in a libertarian kind of way. I can recall being taken aback more than once down in Tennessee when visiting family & friends when people I had just met asked me which church I belonged to in our very first conversation. I was pleasant in return because I knew they meant well but up here such a personal question of someone you don’t even know would be considered rude. Two of my brothers married in Alabama and Louisiana, the one in Louisiana to a minister’s daughter. Her family, including her minister father, wouldn’t even speak to us at the wedding because they didn’t approve of their daughter marrying a Catholic. We weren’t Christian enough for them I suppose. In Alabama, a couple of the bride’s Aunts who were originally from Massachusetts came to our hotel to apologize for the bride’s family’s lack of hospitality. Her family did try to be cordial at the wedding itself which an Aunt & Uncle hosted at their home, even if letting us know the little bit of a reception being put on was not their way of doing things.

    And yes I agree that powerful forces with their own agendas have done tremendous damage to the family, and in turn damaged the country.

    #39721
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    Brulen
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    MB, After 3 generations of religious disharmony my wife’s mother 86 who has Alzheimers has forgotten her religion. One day we were talking to her and suddenly realized a whole time period in her life was missing. The religious conversion she had, the whole thought process, the 40 year family battles, GONE, we were talking to her as she had been before “the religion switch” was turned on. She was a different person. The air cleared, the sun came out and we were all happy again. I think it was somekind of mental illness she overcame. Her mind was working and the memories of dead people weren’t haunting her anymore. Her demon haunted world as Carl Sagan would say was not even a memory. Btw she earned a degree in chemistry from Cornell University, where Sagan taught. Miracles do happen.

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