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  • #49035
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    Brulen
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    74 … My view in general is the world needs more atheists. Both Christianity and Islam are so flawed they will never coexist with Jews or anyone else. Yes Christians have adopted socialist cultural attitudes. Once upon a time you met a Christian you could figure out what he was all about. Forget that now. At least the Moslems are honest, they just hate. They have no trouble with slavery or burning women alive. Don’t be an atheist is an Islamic country, you are deader that dead. Off with your head. Trump is absolutely right. The U.S. has borders or it isn’t a country. Christians can’t accept that premise. Soon in the USA were going to have a huge fight, especially under Hilary, as all of these new immigrants decide THEY deserve a guaranteed income. Our USA will be gone and be replaced by a One God or goddess caliphate. No more separation of church and state. That won’t be NWO. It will be all out war with Queen Hilary deciding issues the way Adolph did, Wolfpack rules. It would be a disaster on the scale of Fall of Rome. A fatal error in the civilization code.

    #49036
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Well Tolik, between you and Whirlibird this thread has been quite successfully hijacked.

    I believe I was talking to Brulen about his correct observation that Christians have turned themselves into spineless eunuchs………….If a single comment can hijack a thread …………..its a pretty weak thread . Just Sayin

    Considering this forum only has 7 – 10 active members , I guess 2 members out of 7 could be enough to commit a coup d’etat…Sarc/off

    #49038
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    Brulen
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    There we go Tolik. Power perceived equals
    Power achieved.

    My last reply will probably infuriate the boneless even more. J’accuse.

    #49039
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    74
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    rnews

    “Soon in the USA were going to have a huge fight” Brulen

    I believe your correct in this regard, it is evident everywhere. On this other topic, somehow I don’t see athisim saving the USA or any other country from anything. But that’s ok I’m willing to be surprised.

    #49040
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    Brulen
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    Religion is a social club 74. Atheists have very little influence here except in science & tech fields. You are more likely to lose a job if people identify you as an atheist. I’ve heard people say a republican and a democrat can be married happily, I really doubt that, but never an atheist and a Jesus believer. If Christianity was once what held the USA together I’d say the country is fragmented as hell these days. There are some sects of patriots who are extremely religious but they almost seem to be in an altered mental state quite a bit of the time. We have freedom of religion in America. Oh really? Peaceful Muslims may want to join that club but their relatives don’t. It’s an America that can’t say No. It’s lost it’s cultural identity. And they call it a democracy. We’re in the middle of a mass looting party. Atheists will go down with the ship like everybody else. No surprise there.

    #49041
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    74
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    rnews

    Brulen,
    Regardless of what religions the populus believe governments are amoral, and for the most part negate any altruistic benefits religion might have. As the article implies we are going down the rat hole. It certainly wouldn’t hurt to have a stronger code of ethics as a cultural tradition. I don’t see where that can come from other then religion, certainly not from the government and not from the new religion of professional sports.

    #49043
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    sledjockey
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    Brulen,

    I am not sure where your views of Christians and muslims have come from, but islam REQUIRES its members to lie and deceive unbelievers. That very requirement precludes them from ever being considered honest…. As for Christians, there are so many denominations and nondenominations of Christianity that lumping them all together as socialists is a far cry from reality. There might be a few liberal/socialist/removed from reality type Christian groups out there, but there is no way to consider them all that way. Unlike the very core of islam, where you can immediately group them all together due to their required literal translation of the quran, Christianity allows for interpretation. Atheisism is a religion just like Scientology or Christianity for all practical purposes. These believers group together to form their own moral justification and code of beliefs as would any other organized religion. Sometimes they are (in my observations) only slightly less fanatic than the followers of muhammad.

    I agree with the wall on our borders, but I don’t know where you came up with Christians not wanting a wall. Are you living in New York or some parallel universe? The Western and Southern State Christians (from websites I have read) mostly agree that a wall is more than necessary – essentially required.

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #49047
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    L Tecolote
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    D’accord, Sled! Deeds trump words (political implications notwithstanding.)

    About a decade ago, I had an interesting discussion with a Muslim motel owner, in, of all unlikely places, central Wyoming. He presented the view, much as in the commentary to GS’s food for thought article, that Jesus is revered in Islam (at least in the version to which he subscribed) as one of the prophets, just not the final prophet. Cut off, as he was from a large, politically organized Muslim community and mosque, he could afford to be the relatively easy-going, reasonable business-owner he seemed to be. He certainly wasn’t about beheading non-believers, nor planting bombs. Who knows how he might have behaved under different influences? But as we departed, he wished my wife and I well, as we did him.

    Cry, "Treason!"

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    #49048
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    MountainBiker
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    Throughout history anytime a religion was in charge of society the result was no different than when a secular dictator was in charge. People had few rights and life on average was harsh. Currently the threat in this regard is Islam. I remain flabbergasted that some cannot see that their goal is to take over the Western world and push society back hundreds of years. Christianity has mellowed from it’s heyday some hundreds of years ago and no longer poses a threat to secular society. What’s not good is that Christianity is not fighting back Islam.

    Christianity has otherwise splintered into many factions ranging from alignment with the far left to alignment with the far right. The far left faction of Christianity would likely be content with a socialist govt. that controls every aspect of our lives. The far right faction seems to want a theocracy that controls every aspect of our lives. Fortunately most Christians are somewhere in the middle.

    That Islam reveres Jesus as a prophet does not spare Christians the wrath of Islam.

    #49067
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    sledjockey
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    D’accord, Sled! Deeds trump words (political implications notwithstanding.)

    About a decade ago, I had an interesting discussion with a Muslim motel owner, in, of all unlikely places, central Wyoming. He presented the view, much as in the commentary to GS’s food for thought article, that Jesus is revered in Islam (at least in the version to which he subscribed) as one of the prophets, just not the final prophet. Cut off, as he was from a large, politically organized Muslim community and mosque, he could afford to be the relatively easy-going, reasonable business-owner he seemed to be. He certainly wasn’t about beheading non-believers, nor planting bombs. Who knows how he might have behaved under different influences? But as we departed, he wished my wife and I well, as we did him.

    That is what has always bothered me. If a muslim is following the religion as it was created, they either fall in line or get a fatwa and punishment. It doesn’t matter what country that muslim is in. The only non Orthodox variant of islam is the “Nation of Islam” in the US. Their leaders have been targeted by other Islamic groups (especially considering that the NoI uses the sunni teachings) due to the way that they allow a “loose” interpretation of the quran and don’t follow it literally. The NoI has now included lots of scientology teachings and is now a meld of the two, thus not truly islam, but I went on a tangent. If that innkeeper was truly muslim and followed the muslim faith as the actual religious books say, he was doing what he was supposed to do. He was deceiving nonbelievers as a way to win over their trust. Where can you draw the line and say “This is not a lie, but this is?” when the basis for the faith is wrapped around deceiving and killing nonbelievers?

    Where I stand on things is quite simple: I am anti-oppression. If any group or person tries to oppress another, I am completely against it. Oppression in my mind includes taxation (stealing from me to fund their own projects), many religions (yes, many Christian denominations are included), government, traffic tickets/license/registration, city codes, socialist based politics, blah, blah, blah……. Since the very teachings of islam allow for no interpretation and it is written as a requirement to oppress others, I hate the islam faith.

    Why must it be so derned difficult? I wish these arsehats would just shut up, go away, and leave the rest of us alone…… Now off to make some tea – caffeine is good.

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #49070
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    L Tecolote
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    The essential nature of arsehats is not to go away. Everyone is in the wrong once in a while. What makes an arsehat an arsehat is persistence in doing wrong, and refusal to consider alternatives. Islam, like socialism/communism is a form of organized (and “justified”) plunder, all of which appear to “succeed” only as long as there are productive others to plunder.

    Cry, "Treason!"

    #49073
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    namelus
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    if you want to understand what real muslim is like read the hadith a description of Mohamed life yes the prophet, It is a shocking read and you can see what will happen if they gain power.

    #49086
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    undeRGRönd
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    Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, time to make Peking duck.
    Extra crispy.

    LOL, Peking Duck ;)

    Whirly, thanks to you, I modified my whole armory approach, and I am mostly into metal framed weapons. Still got the HP carbines, for fun shoots and hand out guns, but I think my setup is much more in line with proper mil-spec thinking ;)

    I was wondering about your thoughts on a Glock20 with weights in the grip, I like shooting the full bore 10mm out of it. The 6.6″ LWD barrel seems to have helped a good bit, I shot some 1260 FPS spec (5″ barrel I assume) HPR 180 grains out of it and it was a lot smoother than the shorty Comped barrel. It is(was) a G20C…

    "ROGUE ELECTRICIAN" Hoping to be around to re-energize the New World.....

    Cogito, ergo armatus sum

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