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    GeorgiaSaint
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    Is it just me, or is something really weird about this assassination or Lil’ Kim’s half brother:

    13 February he’s attacked by a young woman, on camera, in the airport. Moments later the video shows him meeting with some security people, gesturing to his eyes, being escorted to an office, then being on the floor or a stretcher on the floor apparently – all within minutes.

    We learn within a day that he was supposedly wiped with a cloth, and that he was poisoned with VX nerve agent.

    NO ONE else has apparently been affected by this agent that takes a tiny drop to ensure death – not even the young woman that allegedly administered it.

    “We watched her walk across one of the terminals. She would have had to have carried this cloth with her. Even if she had gloves on, it would have dispersed somehow, somewhere,” she said. “Onto her, maybe onto someone else if she would have brushed against someone. If something would have dropped, onto a shoe, onto a suitcase.” Wherever she doused the cloth might be contaminated, Vestergaard added. “Even to open the vial and carry a vial” risks contaminating the environment.

    The toxin “can remain on material, equipment and terrain for long periods,” the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons indicates on its website.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/25/the-worst-case-scenario-of-the-apparent-nerve-toxin-murder-of-kim-jong-nam/?utm_term=.c0ef1affbe11

    13 days later:

    Malaysia plans to sweep one of the terminals at Kuala Lumpur international airport for toxic chemicals after Kim Jong Nam was murdered there with a nerve agent last week. … The sweep will be conducted from 1 a.m. (1700 GMT) on Feb. 26, the police said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-malaysia-kim-airport-idUSKBN1640D6?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

    So something the size of 1/9th of a grain of sand can kill people within minutes, yet this team of assassins can get the material on a cloth carried by a young woman who’s still very much alive (though in custody), and NO one else has reportedly been sickened, let alone died, as a result of this incident – not even the medical personnel who initially attended to him and had close, direct contact. It was identified as VX within a day of the attack. Yet it’s taken nearly two weeks to finally decide to do a sweep of just one terminal of the airport to make sure none of the chemical is still on a floor, bathroom trash receptacle, counter top, etc.? Meanwhile thousands have passed through that airport, with possible contamination? As they say, wazup widat?!?

    This just doesn’t pass the smell test (despite VX being odorless and colorless). What am I missing here?

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

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    #51386
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    This has caused concern in China , you see , the Chinese were getting very fond of him . They liked his different outlook on policy , because his ideas would have eventually eased the burden on China . The Chinese have moved more troops to the North Korean boarder . What that means is anybody’s guess .

    #51387
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    This one is like a huge backlash on a spinning reel – it’ll take a lot of work and considerable time to unravel it, if not simply give up and cut it loose – we may never know all the details, or even the “real” basics. Still, something’s very odd with this story. Nobody else died, authorities waited nearly two weeks to do a sweep of the airport for chemicals that they had already publicly identified within about a day as a deadly nerve agent, and the Chinese somehow seem to have made a connection to the “event” that caused them to move “a thousand” (later “thousands”) of troops to the border within a day.

    With what’s reportedly competent tanks and an army of well over a million, along with one of the highest stockpiles of chemical weapons in the world (possibly the largest of VX and presumably other really nasty stuff), North Korea would be a formidable opponent no matter who attacked them or vice versa. China may have waited too long to take them down. Intriguing at very best, and quite ominous, potentially, at very worst. I certainly hope none of my friends are stationed in Korea any time soon.

    Pure speculation: anyone remember the incident a number of years ago when an entire city was almost literally wiped off the map when (supposedly) a train exploded in North Korea? It was not terribly far from their nuclear testing/development facility, reportedly. It was blamed, if I remember correctly, on an explosion on the train itself – some of its cargo. The devastation was amazing! I can’t recall a lot of details (though a lot was not forthcoming anyway, of course), but I remember wondering at the time if we and/or the Chinese had “intervened” in something having to do with shipment of something that “crossed the line” with respect to arms shipments to the Middle East. Regardless, I’ve always wondered what that was really all about. The U.S. remained unusually quiet, North Korea acknowledged it but surprisingly did not react in their paranoid fashion by blaming anyone else, and China seemed to be remaining silent on it. But then there’s always been what is suddenly known as “fake news,” too….

    The shadow knows….

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by Profile photo of GeorgiaSaint GeorgiaSaint.
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    #51397
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    Brulen
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    VX in where. I remember in Utah they had an incinerator to burn this stuff by the ton. Too high tech for a N. Korean op. Then president of USA wants to open back channel to Kim but can’t because of leaks. Condolences I suppose. Asia is,locked in an octagon of death. The last thing on the strategic scale for the USA would be another two front world war. Bad business indeed. I’m starting to like the idea of Fortress America a lot more lately. That’s something the democrats refuse to comprehend except from the USA selling more armament corporate angle. Although watching the Iranian navy do a sea exercise was fun. An Aegis ship could probably blow them all out of the water within fifteen minutes.

    #51398
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    An Aegis ship could probably blow them all out of the water within fifteen minutes.

    Personally, I’d love watching the air war portion. I trained probably well over 1000 Iranian student pilots in the 70s, and while I truly did like most of those kids, I’ll guarantee that of the roughly 35 nations we trained back then, the Iranians were about the worst of any overall. The lowest graduate in a USAF pilot training class could probably take out 90% of the Iranians we trained – it would actually be almost too sad to watch. But I’d still be afraid of some of the damage they could do in their own region before we turned the country into a sea of glass if we had to. And honestly, that would be sad – because there are still a lot of good people in that country, many of whom have great respect for the US (even despite Hussein O’Barry). Plus, the old culture, history, etc., are all fascinating. So sad.

    And to think we set all that up, thanks to the Dulles Gang and General H. Norman Schwarzkopf’s daddy, spreading million$ around to destabilize and overthrow a democratically elected prime minister (Mosaddegh) who had the audacity to want to allow Iran to control itself and its own oil. We did them one better – we installed our own favored brutal dictator, the “beloved” Shahanshah (“King of Kings”) who made SURE Iran was ruled from within — thanks to our weaponry and other support of course. As usual, it was all about oil, money, and power. Score another one for the Brits and the Americans! (Queue up Peter Paul and Mary: “When will we ever learn, when will we ever learn?”)

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #51401
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    Brulen
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    President Trump has a big increase in funds for the military. We all know where it’s coming from. Defund every single one of the sanctuary enclaves. They’re owned by the liberals. They’re owned by Obama. Can we have two Presidents?

    If I Remember the rise of ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. The shah was no saint but the ayatollah was a devil. I voted for Ross Perot and read On Wings of Eagles. I certainly hated Bush Sr. For his attempt to threaten Perot’s family. So low and everybody’s forgotten the dirty politics surrounding Iran. The myth of the ugly American was a myth. Colby and his white suit. He was a killer. Who can forget puppet saddam waging a proxy war on Iran for the USA. The human wave attacks by Iranian students fighting saddams tanks. We started the war on Islam and “we condemn hate in all its ugly forms” Trump. Lol The USA let the genie out of the bottle we better get our military act together.

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    #51403
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    So much in a 2-paragraph post! Organizing for Action with 250+ well funded offices around the US, 30,000 60’s-style radicals updated to the 21st century, training 25,000 more, and their Dear Leader living just down the street from his previous residence for the last 8 years. Yep – two presidents indeed. And nearly ½ of the Congress showed exactly where they stand tonight as that side of the chamber nearly had a trampling as the aisles immediately filled and those seats emptied en masse, on cue, at the last word of the speech.

    Bush I ? Ask the families of the POWs known to have been alive as the Hanoi Hilton was emptied in 1973, what they think of “41” who presided over their declaration as KIA, permanently MIA, etc. We had a chance to change things in a major way with the little computer man – but he wasn’t part of the establishment.

    Saddam (and Rumsfeld)? See attached photo and accompanying narrative. WMD and proxy war with Iran indeed….

    Queue up Sonny and Cher for this one: “And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on….”

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

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