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    #51669
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    The GBU-43B, a 21,000-pound conventional bomb.

    #51670
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    L Tecolote
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    I don’t buy the implication that the US military would mount such an unusual, costly (and likely, dangerous) tactic, as simply retaliation for the death, however tragic, of a single soldier. Even ISIS understands that we couldn’t afford such tit for tat tactics.

    But it was effective in several ways, no doubt. And the vital interest we Citizens of the uSA have in Afghanistan is …? None of the “reasons” claimed by the people with authority to initiate and continue military actions there, ever rang true, nor made sense to me.

    Cry, "Treason!"

    #51672
    Tolik
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    New sheriff in town . We are likely to be seeing a lot of things in the next four years , that we are not accustomed to seeing . He needs to quit bending to the establishment , get together with Putin , and make a serious plan to wipe them out . Screw what people think , ISIS is the new Nazi Germany / Imperial Japan . World would have been a far different place today , if the US and USSR had not put their politics aside , and joined forces to get rid of them . You want to make Islam a non threat ? Thats what its going to take .

    #51673
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    L Tecolote
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    It’s beginning to look to me like the new sheriff got together with the same old neocon gang that has been deliberately knocking off secular regimes all over the near east and mideast for fun and profit for the last four decades. Yes,of course, those guys — the Shah, Sadat, Saddam, Karadžić, Ghaddafi, and now Assad — weren’t/aren’t nice guys. Mostly brutal b@$tards. But most of the people under their rule were generally better off before US presidents stuck our oar in, at a cost of tens of thousands of our finest, and trillions for our great-grandkids to to pay in slavery.

    And now, the new sheriff’s got high praise for the same jerks he promised to save us from? Wassup wid dat? Did they offer him a better deal than his supporters could? Horse’s head in the bed? Putin’s not likely to buy into a deal that wipes out his naval base in Syria.

    A “Caliphate” without territory or funds is just a murderous rapist’s nasty dream. Deprive them of that, and they’ll just be a noisy, if murderous rabble, and they can rape and behead each other. (Think about it, current Eurabians and prospective Amerabians, all. You still might have a chance, if you quit following the globalist slow surrender plan. Nobody can save you from yourselves.)

    The last time the uSA got serious about dealing with Muslim terrorists, the terrorists throttled back for a century and a half or so, until the non-Muslim world rattled their cages again, and paid them handsomely for the interruption. Yeah, shutting the Caliphate down will still leave nearly-nuclear Iran, and Krazy Kim to deal with. But most of the people in the world would still rather do business, than fight back and forth over the same ground and issues until they die. And a few sundry madmen would be a lot easier to deal with if our attention wasn’t constantly being distracted to take care of a problem of our own making.

    Cry, "Treason!"

    #51676
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    What I heard today was that Trump took the reins off the military and said do what works; new ROE. A great big bomb on a tunnel complex seems like a solution to a problem.

    #51677
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    Brulen
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    WW1 WW2 WWZ What President Trump said in his preamble to becoming the most powerful president in American history is He Would Kill. I’m glad he’s living up to expectations. One square mile totally destroyed. I call that taking the reins off. Letting the military do what they do best. Not only do I hope he’s a serial killer but that he improves over time. There’s to much scum in the world and it has to be dealt with in epic proportions. The wrath of God and the Trump of doom. Let loose the hounds of hell and punish the bastards. The world deserves Amerigeddon.
    From top to bottom.

    #51696
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    As usual, there is more than meets the eye. And I’m with L Tecolote – this wasn’t about retaliation for the death – however sad – of one SpecOps Soldier. Nor is it just about Afghanistan, or even tunnels/caves. We reserved this thing for almost a decade and a half before ever actually using it against anybody. No pun intended, this was no small thing – in any way. And while my initial feel-good response was substantial, as my emotions settle down and my conscious, rational mind kicks in (what’s left of it), something just ain’t right about this in the much larger scheme of things (to include Assad’s alleged chemical attack and our response and almost immediate judgement on same). There isn’t a crayon in the box with sufficient intensity to color me appropriately skeptical.

    By the way – in case anyone missed it (it was broadcast so little, that’s highly likely!) – the claim that we don’t have boots on the ground in Syria is BEYOND Bravo Sierra. I understand the word-play when they claim that Green Berets don’t “count” as boots on the ground, since they’ve got “special” missions. But there is footage of the 75th Ranger Regiment driving around in Syria, complete with American flags hoisted high above their vehicles. Rangers are 11 Bravos (the MOS for INFANTRY Soldiers), as opposed to Green Berets (18 Xrays). Tell the soon-to-be widows of the Rangers that there are no “boots on the ground” in Syria. TOO many dots to connect in all of this. But just my 2¢ ….

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #51697
    Whirlibird
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    Hmm, 21,000lb bomb to get 36+ terrs?
    Drop another, we need to establish an average.

    #51701
    Tolik
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    Russian Army is already in Syria to a ” limited ” degree , as is Spetsnaz ( russian SF ) . Spetsnaz vs Rangers = dead rangers , Spetsnaz vs US SFs , could go either way . Gettin tired of the BS games , time to either s#it or get off the pot . Get serious , cooperate with each other , and clean house over there . Big bombs make a big noise , but thats all it is , noise . It wont make a dent unless everybody gets serious . I agree, more than meets the eye , or we wouldnt continue to pull our pud , with no obvious goals . Losses ? try to put it into perspective . More Americans died on the first day of the D-Day invasion , than all the years we have been jerking around in the middle east . That was just one battle , vs years of occupation , the numbers are a drop in the bucket , which we can clearly afford to continue ……………..or we wouldnt do it . When the US declares actual war on anything , we win . We dont mess around in an actual war , and dont give a crap about non combatant civilian losses , if it gets us closer to victory , as it should be . On the other hand , we have never won a war sense , because of the lack of commitment and legitimacy . In that situation , our military is expendable cannon fodder for the powers to play games with . The deaths dont matter , because they are so low in the big picture , that they dont care . Think about that , next time when you see your kid , or a kid you know , who is thinking about joining up for that kind of thing . They will not be stationed on the French Riviera , or be going to Cancun , they will be fresh meat for the game d’jour .

    #51712
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    Well the count keeps going up, last count was 94+ terrorist, and that is what bodies they are able to count. What about the ones that are underground in the caves? 100’s. This did send a message. This could have been done years ago.

    #51713
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    Brulen
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    Two is one, one is none. Only one carrier in the area? Fighter escort for the long range bombers. It does come down to : Show us what you got. It would be a recon in force. But in actually
    it’s a cover for find the scientists and kill them. Bunker bust The research facilities and NK will never produce another nuke. Decapitate the right people and the usa saves millions of lives. It’s the game changer that should have happened in Iran rather than the stuxnet hack.
    But mr. Murphy may have imput.

    #51714
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    Hello, who wants to put up with nuclear blackmail. Hey maybe the dimocrats but not our kids. Kim deserves his payoff…. In plutonium. Yes or no?

    #51715
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    L Tecolote
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    This did send a message.

    To whom was the message sent, and who received it? Sending messages to madmen is pointless. Once both sides of a conflict have killed troops of the other side, it’s war, no matter what clever terms of art may be used to disguise the issue. I hope message was understood by our despairing allies, who had been wondering which side we were on, and what we intended to do about it. I suspect the same message might have been understood by some of our competitors/potential enemies.

    Cry, "Treason!"

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    #51716
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    The madman will get the message by getting taken down, China, Russia, and all the rest of the middle east will get the message too. War is not going to happen the way you think anymore, the North Koreans have no where to hide. This is not Afghanistan. For eight years there was zero message which the Chinese and Russians loved and used to there advantage. No more. Message has been sent to all. The U. S. will now hit hard.

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