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  • #43898
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    BOOM: Trump Announces Huge Gun Policy… Calls for National Concealed Carry and Blasts Efforts to Violate Rights on Magazine Sizes! WOW!! Must read article. It looks like Trump is starting to give We The People his agenda if he becomes president and this one is great.

    http://libertynews.com/2015/09/boom-trump-announces-huge-gun-policy-calls-for-national-concealed-carry-and-blasts-efforts-to-violate-rights-on-magazine-sizes/

    And here is the link to Trump’s 2nd Amendment plans,

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights

    As of today Trump has my vote.

    #43901
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    I won’t be a 1-issue voter, but I can’t help but LMAO (with delight) at Trump’s statement:

    NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

    Werks fer me!

    (Looks like he might have found a way to get the focus off his failure to respond to the Muslim issue from a day ago. He took today off, canceling an appearance in SC to attend to unspecified business dealings. Now he’s announced his gun policy that’s certain to send the left/media into orbit. Great tactic if it works.)

    #43903
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    What they say and what they do don’t match.

    Trump needs to put his mouth where his money is (or has been).

    He’s invested millions of dollars supporting a very liberal agenda up until recently. His coincidental conversion to the republican party seems a great ploy at either subterfuge or hedging, both Characteristically Trump strategies.

    His record does not support gun rights for the general public. They can say whatever they want up until they are elected. To know what he really thinks (and will likely do in the future), look at his past.

    Same goes for most politicians.

    #43904
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    “His record does not support gun rights for the general public.”

    Show me his record of which you speak

    #43906
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    Benjammin,

    As I said above, “I won’t be a 1-issue voter.” But that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate at least an out-of-context statement by The Donald. As for the man, I have no use for him as a serious contender for ANY public office. Just his record on the use of eminent domain alone is far more than enough for me to simply say, “No way!” He doesn’t care about the common man. He’s above them all! [as he sees it – talk about narcissism!!] Trump is a dangerous man.

    #43907
    Tolik
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    Putin 2016 . At least you know what your getting up front , with no BS .

    Seriously though , I like a lot of what Trump is saying , but as many have pointed out , he talks a good game . I must agree with GeorgiaSaint , Congress and Senate have proven they will not do their job as a check and balance , or O would not have gotten as far as he has , I dont see that changing short of at gunpoint . I wonder what his REAL agenda is . The fact is , more often than not , is if a man is unethical in business , he is unethical at home as well . I like what he is saying on many issues , but again he is playing the game , I dont trust that he will abide by any promises made if ” selected ” ………………..I didnt say elected . I remind everyone the we dont really elect our president . Here is the deal also , we need to concentrate on the character and voting record of the people we send up to counter whoever gets in . Those people can be swapped out every two years until you get one that will do their job . If we had been doing that , we wouldnt be in nearly as bad a shape as we are in now .

    #43908
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    GS, The problem is the rest of the Republicans are not going to get the votes from the independent voter. Was McCain not more left wing, was Romney not from a Democratic state and had a ObamaCare system in his state.
    McCain and Romney were to fare to the left and lost. The right wing like Ted Cruz would not make the cut in a national election, the independent vote would not vote for him.

    I too would like a a more conservative but DO NOT WANT ANYMORE POLITICIAN. They have lied to us just as much as you say Trump is. Which house or senate rep has kept there word? I know of only one Ted Cruz but even tho he is one of the smartest man there the public polls do not like him more then 6%.

    Marco Rubio is good but I find him to be to young and also polls at 6%. Ben Carson very smart man but in a debate against a Hillary or Biden, Ben Carson may get eaten alive. Jeb Bush is out for me. Love Rick Santorum but his poll numbers are so low. Also love Mike Huckabee but has the same problems as Rick Santorum and the two are right wing which I am too but I know for a fact that the independent vote would not vote for them.

    Now when it comes to the $18 Trillion National Dept I personally can’t see anyone except Trump to fix it and even Trump may not be able to fix it because O has done so much damage.

    What I like is that Trump has put this info online for all to see and use to keep him at his word.
    Also GS 100 time more dangerous is Biden or Hillary so we the Republicans better have the right person to take most of the independent vote. With out the independent vote we lose again.

    I have a question for GeorgiaSaint and benjammin, which GOP do you think can get elected? Which one can win Hillary or Biden? You know we need to win now right. The country can’t have another Socialist in power because it will end this country.

    Remember I am not against you but with you. I want this country to go back to the country I love and the U. S.Constitution, all the freedoms and liberties we all love.

    #43909
    Tolik
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    Its human nature to hear only what you want to hear , and ignore the rest . Thats true when dealing with your spouse , coworkers , anybody . Here is the thing , and its open for all to see , Trump has said this MANY MANY times in interviews , but we hear only what we want to hear , even though he himself has openly said it .
    That is this :
    He has bribed politicians to get his way .
    He has supported the agendas of those in power , even though he did not believe in that agenda .
    He is very willing to put personal ethics , morals , and values aside to get what he wants .
    This is very important folks ! He himself has admitted that , and acts like compromising your values is not any big deal . Its even more important when you understand that as a private citizen , and businessman , you have 100% control over your actions and ethics . Now if you are so willing to compromise your personal values and beliefs as a private citizen , when the choice is 100% yours , what is he going to do as a leader of a nation ?
    We choose not to hear any of those things , again , human nature .
    Freedom , I understand what you are saying , but we need to hear these things , not just about him , but all of them . The difference is , he is openly saying it , and I do have to applaud him for that .

    #43910
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    Tolik, I agree with almost all that all of you are saying. What I see is the good ones are not electable, have very low poll numbers so we need to see who is electable and that will get the job done. I also think he is a man that is not ethical, who is ethical that will poll well? That is the big question. Dr Ben Carson, I am not sure since he was with Trump in the debate. I see Dr. Ben Carson as a problem for some since he is low key type of person.

    I just think that Trump is going to get into every ones face and make the deals that maybe needed.

    I personally will not vote for Jeb Bush, I live in Florida and he was a governor, a good governor but very low energy type of guy. We have way to much problems (National Debt). We need someone that will kick some a____ with the senate and house.

    Tolik do you think Putin is ethical, NO Trump can deal with Putin. Why well the two know the game. It is a dirty game.

    #43911
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    Tolik on your comment (Freedom , I understand what you are saying , but we need to hear these things , not just about him , but all of them . The difference is , he is openly saying it , and I do have to applaud him for that .)

    My friend the rest will never say it like it is or tell us who they really are. Did all of you see with your own eyes when Bush asked Trump to apologize for what Trump said about his wife. PLEASE what a joke, after that Jeb Bush said his secret word for the secret service will be energizer and Trump turned his face and put his hand out and Bush gave Trump a high five like he liked Trump for letting him have a high five, what a JOKE! If someone says something about my wife well I would not even look at that persons face.

    The same think happen with Ben Carson when he agreed with Trump on the Iraq war, Trump turned and gave Ben a high five. Did everyone here see this little details? Trump is telling the truth about buying all of them. So this makes them just as GS said about Trump.

    GS, Trump maybe all that you said but the rest are just as dangerous since Trump did point out that he has purchased all of them and none had anything to say about that. This makes the politicians even MORE dangerous since every single one didn’t say anything.

    But on the other side we have even more dangerous left wing politicians.

    GS I do not see a good man that will be electable and I to feel your pain.

    #43912
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    Also I want to point out that it is very hard to write on here what I am really thinking so do not take every word I write to be 100% of what I am thinking PLEASE. I do love this country and want the same as all of you, Freedom, Liberty, The U. S. Constitution.

    So what I write is an opinion as close as I can write, sometime it doesn’t come out the way I am thinking.

    #43913
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    I have a question for GeorgiaSaint and benjammin, which GOP do you think can get elected? Which one can win Hillary or Biden? You know we need to win now right. The country can’t have another Socialist in power because it will end this country.

    Freedom,

    First, we aren’t even at the primaries yet – months away from even the first ones. The news media will determine who’s “electable” and how isn’t by swaying public opinion, refusing to give candidates adequate time and opportunity to get their messages out, etc. Only after they’ve forced a few more candidates out of the race (I suspect Rick Perry will not be the first even before the primaries), will it be time to even intelligently begin to guess (and it would be just that – a guess) who is electable and who isn’t. And by then we might have a better idea of where many of them really stand on some issues.

    Second, I’m not even convinced Hillary or Smilin’ Joe will be the Democrat nominee. I will not be at all surprised to see a mess develop (planned), and suddenly have Elizabeth Warren swoop in to “save” the day for the Democrats. That would be even worse, in many respects, than either Hillary or Biden.

    Finally, it’s a slam dunk that we can’t afford another socialist in power – but we cannot avoid it. You could bring back Barry Goldwater and put him in the White House, but Congress would neutralize him in a heartbeat. As the saying goes, the woods are full of them (socialists, that is). And make no mistake about it – IF we ended up with Elizabeth Warren, we might WISH we “only” had a socialist.

    Personally, barring a true miracle in who’s available to vote for, I will only vote for the lesser of two or more evils, so to speak. That only delays the inevitable, as I now see it. Three years ago, just days before the 2012 election, I listened to an interview of Dr. Thomas Sowell – a very wise, and clear thinking individual in my opinion. I was stunned at the answer he gave to the question, “Do you believe this nation can survive as a constitutional republic if Obama is able to win a 2nd term?” He paused a moment or two, and then said, categorically, “No.” Sowell was, in his early adulthood, a Marxist by his own account. He’s seen both sides (or all sides, as the case may be). And for him to make such a monumental prediction caused me to really ponder what he had to say, with considerable worry. I believe he’s turned out to be correct. We only have a shell (like a Hollywood set) of what was once a constitutional republic. And putting it back together now, given decades of public “education” of multiple generations, along with the U.S. versions of Izvestia and Pravda shaping what we see and believe (and withholding what they don’t want us to see), I truly believe we’re too far gone as a nation to recover. At very best, I think it would require a complete re-start if it could happen, and the death and destruction between now and that kind of event would be catastrophic. I’m convinced that we can’t just do a U-turn and get back on track anymore. We already ran off he end of the track, and few have any clue.

    So, I’m just not getting too wrapped around the axle about the current crop of candidates. I could say things about almost every one of them that I personally believe disqualifies them from the presidency on moral, ethical, or position grounds. But I also think it’s a pointless current argument, for the most part. (By the way – the Huckster is a lying deceiver. Think wolves and sheep’s clothing.)

    #43915
    Tolik
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    One thing that I will give him , he is the ONLY one on either side that is SMART enough to negotiate with Putin successfully , Putin has made a monkey out of every leader he has come up against so far . All the others got screwed , they just didnt know it until it was too late . I dont think he could do that to Trump .

    #43916
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    Freedom, don’t you worry about any difficulty expressing yourself here. I think this group – despite not always sharing identical positions on a few issues – is decent enough that you’re not going to be criticized for that. Opinions and thought processes matter a whole lot more than perfection in written expression. This is not the crowd that goes around commenting on news stories by attacking people for misspellings, grammar usage, etc., or using profanity to substitute for decent thought. Here we have honest discussion and don’t worry about lack of perfection in expression. You’re among good people with decent values despite occasional disagreements. (As someone once said, “If we both agreed on everything, one of us would be unnecessary.”)

    Tolik, while I’d rather have Trump at the table against Putin than almost any of the other people currently available, I particularly loved Fiorina’s position on Putin the other night. Though I’ve got reservations about trying to play policeman worldwide, I also feel strongly that Putin has been emboldened by our current excuse of a Commander in Chief, far beyond what we can safely tolerate any longer. When my wife and I saw Fiorina’s position on Putin, we almost cheered out loud. You can watch it here (just under 1½ minutes long).

    We turned off the so-called “debate” shortly after that, however, recognizing it as mostly a waste of our time and an insult to our intelligence, particularly calling it a “debate.” If anyone didn’t see it but saw the Fox “debate” and thought that one was terrible, be thrilled that you didn’t waste your time with what CNN did the other night. CNN outdid Fox by a wide margin in making it a disgusting warp of what should be a decent political process – and I thought Fox had already done a pretty poor job of it.

    #43917
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    GS, you are right about CNN and Fox News. I am not happy about Fox. Fiorina did good so did Ben and Trump. I believe that the people only wants one of them or maybe two! Trump/Ben since Ben may help Trump with his smarts and Trump with his business experience. Many talk about a Trump/Cruz ticket which would get the Tea Party to go along.

    Tolik, We see the same in Putin v Trump the two would come to agreements fast. I do love Ben Carson’s plan for taxes of everyone pays 10% and NO deductions period.

    GS, you right on that we still have a lot of time. We will see in Nov to Dec who is left.

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