August 6, 2014 at 6:20 am #21190
I have been adrift in a sea of alternative media and I will even admit to going so far down the rabbit hole that I was visiting (God Like Productions) for awhile. I have learned that the pendulum swings and it never stops in the middle on the first pass. Being now one of the awake I am telling this story to help those that come to this site early on. There are two sides to every coin and for me to my left was the old paradigm and to my right was the new. Let me tell you my friends that there are as many enemies on the right as there are on the left.
When I say enemies understand I mean that in that there are those who are here for profit and they will prey on you no different than the left of my story. Stay grounded, question everything, and I mean truly question everything. I have only been apart of this community for a short time but it feels like home with people who are here for a purpose and I hope that these same people will help keep me grounded. If I ever post anything or link anything that makes you think I may be losing my marbles I truly am counting on you to tell me so.August 6, 2014 at 12:00 pm #21199
Xocjm – people click around the net and forget that blogging and alt news sights are a ‘business’ for most. There is such a proliferation, especially in regards to the ‘survival’ area, that intelligence tells you to always take all the fear-inducing headlines with a hefty grain or bag of salt. With so many vying for ‘eyeballs’ (so they can usually make money on the adverts on their sites), and so little ‘real’, ‘true’ news,…and with a lack of unbiased, professional investigative journalists (and most couldn’t afford to pay or hire them)….you have to know that stuff just gets regurgitated, headlines are sensationalized, certain words or writing styles are employed…to get you to stay on the freaking page!
Even here sources are cited my mind tells me are complete crap. For instance, yesterday…Yellowstone was nOT evacuated. I have family nearby – they would have told me – and I later did check.
This is how fear spreads. This is how anxieties rise. This is how riots start. Someone said someone and that person knows this….and on and on. For what does lie in our future we all would be well advised to practice control, practice calm and practice focus. Tough skills to learn in the best of times. Form me my gut tells me to focus on my skills and acquiring the things our group will need and not clutter up my mind and emotions with all kinds of stuff I have no control over anyway.
I joined the forum to learn from others, especially Selco and his experience, not endlessly discuss the news. I have said that before. So yes – question everything and keep doing!/preparing.August 6, 2014 at 1:22 pm #21209
Xocjm, I agree with you that there are to many information websites that are giving you a reason to buy there products only. Also other websites do not tell the truth.
You will find me posting many of the articles that may not be telling the truth on here, reason is all the members will post there opinions and this is a very good thing because it points to the lies so the new members can see and read that there are many websites with information that is not backed up with facts.
Some will post FREEDOM this is a lie, what they do not understand is I know it is a lie or part lie and a small amount of truth in the articles but the point is that I am very interested in everyone see the truth.
So Xocjm, if you read something that you are not sure about and you may be thinking this maybe true please post it and let everyone know that you are not sure and you want there opinion. They will let you have it, believe me no one here will hold back.
For example yesterday I read an article on Yellow Stone and I posted it, I though the article was a lie but still wanted everyone’s opinion and I got it. I come from a Communist country were news doesn’t happen. When Cuba was not a communist country many never even watched the news or went to the elections to vote because they didn’t care,only cared about there problems and how to take care of them self’s well look at what happen 53 years of a Communist Dictator.
So sorry but the news is as important to keep your eye on as preparing for the future. News will give you an idea of what is coming ahead of time. We got change for a reason! Change came because 50% of the public is not educated on history of the world, they never watch the news and many do not even know who is in the Senate, House or Vice-President much less what the debt of the Nation is. If you were to ask a young person what the National debt is they will give you a look, then when you tell them $17.5 trillion then the look changes.
We will not be able to change the way the country is going until we educate the youth of the history and what is really happening. We can’t just prepare and not try to teach why we(country) are all going in this direction. Educate with the truth, with information, with the right news, show them what is happening all over the world. We can’t live in a hole not watching what may happen,.
Do not be silent and not post something just because you may think it is a lie because one of this lies may turn out to be the truth. They will put out 100’s of false flags but one may turn out to be true and if you didn’t post it then you will blame your self for not posting it.
That is one of the best things that you can get on this website, no one is holding back and everyone will give you great and truthful opinions.August 6, 2014 at 5:27 pm #21224
I want everyone to go back to 2008 went there where many articles about O was a Socialist or some went as fare as to calling him a Communist, many called this people liers and that it was just a conspiracy, remember that! Well we now know for sure he is a Socialist done we.
So we always need to keep our minds open. View everything and investigate. The O conspiracy was the truth being told at the time and no one listened.August 6, 2014 at 10:19 pm #21249
I understand where you are coming from. Truly. But to me, I speak for myself, all of these news sites you post articles from have their own forums. If I were inclined, that is where I would engage the news of the day discussions that you and others, apparently like.
I did not join the forum to do here what I could do on the sites originally putting out the stories, wherever they may be. Before Selco, I had never, ever considered paying for a course in ‘survival’. Selco has real experience, knowledge to learn from, yet is humble, very humble in stating he wants to learn from others. Discussion on the news of the day,f or me, again, for me,….does nothing here I can’t do elsewhere. IMHO better elsewhere, where the story started. Here I’d rather see and see encouragement of what people are DOING about the future (as opposed to reading and discussing), ideas they have on how to solve problems, share their struggles and successes in preparing, taking advantage of the multitudinous talents and skills I know current participants possess that I do not. If I wanted to get into endless commentary and opinions on each new story and subject of the day I would, again, engage on the forums where they originally started.
Educating the youth of today, here?…the youth that find and participate here have already educated themselves…or want to DO something about it…and are by trying to participate.
I guess i am in the minority. Leopard, Amanda and I being the few women. I guess I should chalk it up to a ‘guy thing’?…or probably more correctly the needs felt by the predominant forum members. The story of the day and discussion is of more usefulness than what I, seeking self-sufficiency on my little place with far to go is looking for in a forum. I bow to the majority.August 6, 2014 at 10:35 pm #21251
tweva, I understand you but this website has many parts to it and the part of the news is an area which gets a lot of response and opinions.
The posts that you do are very interesting an I love reading every single one and learn a lot from them. My wife doesn’t like the news or conspiracy news at all, so I only give her the most important news in a two to three minute talk and that is it. So this has happen to me where something big has happened and the wife tells me why didn’t you tell me and I tell her well I really didn’t think it was important to include in our two to three minute news talk that day.
So I understand, so please when you see some of my news post only read the one’s that you think are important and please tell me if the news post is a lie or true. We are living in times where news lies all the time and people believe the lies.
I do believe you are right that it is a guy thing but not totally. I have to say that the youth is lost in this country, I have to talk to my kids all the time and educate them. They tell me that there friends do not know 50% of what they know when it comes to the history and news.
Remember that the minority has a say here too! Just don’t put to much on my news post, don’t let it get to you and please keep posting, I read them all.August 6, 2014 at 10:54 pm #21252
Freedom dear…but it is a round robin isn’t it.? You post these stories from other sites…, it strikes a nerve of fear, concern, worry (R vs D etc) and people react; people endlessly, endlessly comment/speculate/react to the story
content true or not. Self-perpetuating. I have lately been wondering how many forum members are actually, actively, doing something about changing their situation, daily, consistently,;acquiring the things they need, actively doing what it takes to learn new skills….versus being armchair traveler’s and just talking about it when really just seeking a ‘forum’ to vent on the issues of the day. ‘Oh it’s useful and important to keep track of.’ Yeah, well there’s many places you can do that. Why here? Why this forum?
Frankly, just speaking for little old me on 12 acres, active, daily, trying to be more self-sufficient….the importance of endless discussion to me is lost…many, many stories change hour by hour, day to day.
Lately, I don’t think what I have to offer is of any remote interest other than to an armchair observer to most forum members’ or the things that I need to learn or can use – practical, useful, solid help with and would like to learn are on offer or available here. You might like to read about how I live and what I may post Freedom..but trust me, I would not be missed…even by you.August 6, 2014 at 11:14 pm #21255
Don’t give up on us just yet, and you would be greatly missed. Why don’t ask about “the things that I need to learn” I have plenty of things to tell you about.August 7, 2014 at 12:12 am #21257
I’m still new to this site, and like most of you took Selco’s course because I was not only inspired to learn from his experiences, but also to show in some small tangible way how much I appreciated a website that focused on what people were actively doing. I don’t yet have a set network of like-minded people, so this was the first place I felt comfortable (and compelled) to join.
In the last few days I’ve seen so many hot-button news and politics topics pop up that are repeats of many true/partial truth/speculation stories I can access on any number of websites. I choose not to view or engage in those threads, because what I really want to see (and learn from all of you, who are so much more experienced than I am) is what you are all doing to actively prepare yourselves for anything coming your way. Tweva, your breakdown on raising quail made my day (and I’m SO excited to start, flight obstacles and all!).
What set this website apart from the rest was the knowledge available to be gained through all of your real-life experience. To someone like me who doesn’t have anyone to ask when questions arise, that’s an absolutely priceless resource. I can read news stories anywhere. What I really need is a place I can bounce ideas around with other like-minded people who are respectful of varying opinions.
I guess I might be in the minority here as well, but I remain hopeful some of the focusing on politics and conspiracies will calm back down and I can continue to learn (and hopefully contribute!) to this place I’ve really started to get attached to.
Hope you all are having a great evening!August 7, 2014 at 12:17 am #21258
tweva, you are wrong! I look forward to reading your post and when I get the emails that tell me you have posted I go to see what tweva is up to. So you are wrong. You offer all of us so much. Just don’t pay attention to us guy’s news talk and go on with your interesting post.
Every time you post you have seen how much we respond to your post.August 7, 2014 at 12:34 am #21259
Amanda, the day you get those fuzzy young…or even feathered out…quail your husband will become, quickly so jealous. You will love and have many happy hours raising them. Thanks so much for your post. I personally appreciate it more than I can say. Have FUN ! You will love your quail. Yes, ‘Have a great evening’ to you as well!August 7, 2014 at 1:20 am #21261
Well that started a debate!August 7, 2014 at 2:30 am #21263
Don’t get discouraged Tweva! I was feeling the same thing the last few days, after only two weeks in. I absolutely love your willingness to readily give realistic advice, and I can’t even put into words how priceless it is to me. I can’t wait to post progress of the Quail endeavor!!
Freedom, you mentioned trying to educate your children. I’d love to hear about SHTF skills you are teaching them, because there is so much I’m still trying to learn. I apologize in advance if I’m late to skills/conversations you think might be repetitive; while I’m not a child, I’ve only acquired my permanent home in the last year and am trying to add as much knowledge as I can. I’ve read a lot of books and have a decent grasp on preparing, but we all know that life experience is worth 100x a standard book.August 7, 2014 at 3:05 am #21266
Amanda11, We have hundreds of posts that we all did on many topics. I know that they are not easy to find on the forum some times but if you ask us any questions that we may help you prepare we will be more the happy to try to answer them.
From how to prepare for any SHTF problems that you can think about just post it.
If we have what you are asking already posted we will find it for you so you can read it and ask more questions.
When you see us posting the news it is to keep us updated and give our opinions, many of the news are on things that may start an SHTF time like financial collapse or diseases.. The news just happens to renew everyday but we are all here to answer all your questions and if you study the website it is full of prepping posts.
That is why we all welcome new members by telling them to start going though the forum’s old posts were you will find it full of posts with information.
You can also ask any of the members by PM them direct, we will help you.August 7, 2014 at 4:31 am #21272
Freedom, I think I get what Tweva is on about. In my weird sounds post I felt like she jumped all over me. But I think I figured out why (and Tweva don’t worry I’m not offended!) and its because this site really is unique in that it is a no BS prepping site. This means skills, gear, tactics, etc. You know what I mean.
Our posts about weird sounds, Yellowstone, ebola, etc of course have their uses… this is not being debated. What she is frustrated about is that they can be distracting from the much more useful learning that goes on here. I admit, the news of the day section is like a bug light to me. I can’t stay away… and then instead of posting about how quickly my buddy and I began to dehydrate on our insane paintballing weekend (which I planned to do… I was shocked at how quickly this happened to us and planned on sharing followed by facts about how much water a person needs and tips to find it) I instead post my ideas about the latest news you, me, or whoever has posted.
We’re stealing her spotlight… but it’s not about her. It’s about focusing on the real-deal survival techniques and experiences we all signed up here to find. Of course, we are free to continue posting whatever we want but I think what she wants to say here is: please keep it to a minimum!
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