August 3, 2018 at 2:20 pm #70751
Talking with a couple of friends across the country, something strange happened. We ended up comparing notes on gut feelings, those intangibles that keep one up at night.
Three people, three different careers (currently), different socio-economic statuses, but one creeping feeling that is hard to define.
One of these, a former coworker keeps using the comment “bad juju”.
But basically its a small sampling of “bad feelings” from completely different areas and industries.
Can’t define it as any one thing, socio-economic, political, educational, but all of them combined to create what feels like a ‘ perfect storm’ headed our collective direction.August 3, 2018 at 9:37 pm #70752
Same here , many gut feelings . All generally point to the left and growing police state . Trump is the wild card they didn’t plan on , and for us on the ground , a sigh of relief . The question is , for how long . Wheels are in motion , none of the ideas are positive that we have come up with . Most seem to point to freedom loving men to have to fight , and not with words either . We came up with thinking their are two major factions . One Marxist left as you say , and the other Fascist governmental /LE/Alphabet soups , both with their own ill agendas , both Constitution hating , both despise the liberty of free men , both attempting to gain control over the other at the expense of the nation and its people . It kind of feels like that calm beach , watching the tide go out ( wayyyyyyyy out ) , before the tsunami comes rolling in .August 3, 2018 at 11:59 pm #70753
I’ve had similar gut feelings and worries. Education and reason are declining among the general population. “Community Organizing” grows. The Left becomes more emotional, violent, and destructive over their political differences with us, and most governments give such behavior at least a pass if not proudly overt public support. Islamists are taking over Europistan. China and Russia, are making advances in weapons systems. US forces are thinly spread, fighting almost unreported wars, in places where nobody has publicly identified any legitimate US interest.
Marxism, in the form of Cloward/Piven overloading of the various Welfare schemes, grows in popularity at a time when many employers are demanding utter and permanent obliteration of the national border to provide not just cheap labor, but labor AT ALL(!) since many Americans would proudly starve, beg, steal, and riot, before they would EVER accept working AT ALL(!)
But the banksters who finance all the variants of would-be world takeover are several moves ahead of us ordinaries. They have already picked their next frontmen/sword-wielders, leaving us to wonder who they’ve chosen, how best to oppose them, and how to survive the waste to which their next big power grab will lay the world. Under all variants of fractional reserve central banking, we subsidize a perpetual enemy, who will never stop trying to complete our enslavement, until the Celestial Whistle blows.
Once, I naively believed and expected that superior ideas would win out in the realm of Politics. When one side of the contest has unlimited access to microphones and press, and the other has virtually none, we are no longer in the realm of Politics, except, perhaps, as von Clausewitz dryly described it as, “War by other means.” When the tine comes, is Shooting the B@stards, “Politics by other means?”
Cry, "Treason!"August 4, 2018 at 12:14 pm #70754
Historically , ” shooting the bastards ” has been the only avenue left open to free men . Only avenue because of the refusal of the other side to negotiate , or even recognize the basic rights of human beings , in regards to life , liberty , and even basic dignity . Europe is lost , and not being European , I don’t care . Mostly because wherever you live is the only area that you have , or hope to have any control over . ( US ) Governmental abuses , over taxation , and epidemic abuse by LE of all levels , is a problem that in recent times , has gotten worse than in any time in our nations history . That , and with the unrecognized problems , and effects of overpopulation ……….something has to break . There are very few people today with authority , that have the backbone , honor , or integrity to stand up against these things . All levels , when you have for profit prisons , guess how you fuel the system ? by creating laws and arresting people . Property forfeiture , nothing more than a license to steal ……..thats all it is . Steal without due process of any actual conviction of any crime . Clearly unconstitutional . Tennessee is notorious for theft from a badge . I could go on , but we get the picture . Police have become not much more than thugs for the system ……………..and as such , the mistrust has never been greater than it is today . Any good ones , can’t survive for long in todays atmosphere , they have to either become part of it directly , or ignore the activities of their peers . Bloody shame all the way around . I always believed that in many cases , if you took the money out of certain things , they would get better almost over night . Prisons being a burden to the state , means fewer laws to put people in jail , all except for the most serious offenses . Fewer laws means greater liberty , and a lesser need for those to enforce such laws . That means a return of trust . I don’t think local government should be allowed to exist in. modern times . The state should be the lowest level of government ….it could be done , but is a subject for another thread . Let me put it this way .
Federal government : You have to build a house to this general code .
State government : You have to build a house to this general code , in addition you have to pay us for the privilege to do so , and we don’t want you to build anything over two stories high .
Local government : Same as above , but in addition , you can’t paint it white , you also have to buy the paint from this store , any grass you plant can’t be mowed on a Thursday or Saturday , or you pay us a bribe .
The lower you go , the more petty it is , the more taxes you pay , and the less free you become . The whole reason you have that crap , is because there is always somebody willing to enforce , even the most ridiculous infractions , without understanding they are part of the problem , or don’t give two shits about being part of the problem . They know they are stealing when they do it , and don’t care ( property forfeiture ) ” well its legal ” , instead of doing what is right .August 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm #70755
WB, Tolik, and LT, you can add my “gut” on this one. The only differences – if they’re even significant (I think one actually is) are the following. One, my only surprise is that “it” (the perfect storm mentioned by WB) hasn’t happened yet. I thoroughly believed it would happen by the end of 2012, just after the election, or early in 2013. But it didn’t. And it didn’t …. And it didn’t. Yet if one digs down into the “numbers” being reported about how great the economy is, it becomes apparent that something not quite defined, but most definitely weird, is happening. Personally, I’ve attributed it to massive manipulation of the markets. It’s most easily seen – if one looks and knows somewhat about how these markets move – in the precious metals. Manipulation? I have zero question. I could go on with quite a bit of evidence, but will save the space (and time).
And another factor concerning the markets is just how the DOW is being propped up. I happened to see Larry Kudlow on TV the other day, and I wish I had a recording of it to go back and review (and even post. He absolutely contradicted himself in the middle of his commentary, first talking about how great the Trump rally is in all (almost) areas – jobs, stock market, unemployment, taxes, wages, etc. But then he turned around and told how just a small handful of companies is responsible for virtually the entire run-up in the stock market. And every one of the companies produces nothing. Amazon, which produces almost no actual products, and Netflix which produces nothing more than the intangible, so-called entertainment, are responsible for over 48% of the S&P’s rise this year! On the other end of the spectrum, Procter & Gamble, Exxon Mobile, and GE are three of the largest negative pressures on the market – and they produce actual things. That alone should cause anyone to wonder just how strong the economy is.
The second difference I believe very strongly, is what/who is behind it all. I do NOT believe we’re well served by buying into what we’re being fed, that this is a left-right issue, communist vs. capitalist, or whatever. I believe that if one looks closely, and at least briefly simply puts personally held belief systems on hold, the evidence is that there is one major overriding force behind it all. I will simply call it (and have previously) fundamental evil. There are other names for it, and attributed specific forces, but that’s a topic for a different thread that goes into the spiritual. So I’ll take the Alcoholics Anonymous approach, and frame that simply as “fundamental evil, however one chooses to interpret it,” just as they do with the concept of “God.”
The bottom line is still the same – something bad is coming, there are people and forces behind it that are very real, the evidence is clear, but the reporting of it is severely manipulated. Count me in.
QUESTION: Does anyone know how to set up this board so it will notify of NEW threads, not just replies to existing ones? I see the block to check at the bottom of posts, “Notify me of follow-up replies via email,” but no such thing for brand new posts. I only check the board every few days anymore, due to low volume, or only if I get an email about responses to existing threads. I’d love to know about new posts such as this one earlier.
"Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."August 5, 2018 at 2:25 pm #70756
Actually , thats a good question . I haven’t seen any mechanism for new thread notification .August 5, 2018 at 3:56 pm #70757
Guy guys, been a piece since I posted. Every once and awhile I’ve been dropping in to check the topics but havent seen anything I needed to add to.
To this question
“QUESTION: Does anyone know how to set up this board so it will notify of NEW threads, not just replies to existing ones? I see the block to check at the bottom of posts, “Notify me of follow-up replies via email,” but no such thing for brand new posts. ”
Can’t be done anymore. In the original configuration of the forum there were many more features that took a hit when the format changed.
Best wishes to all.August 5, 2018 at 6:40 pm #70758
Thanks, 74. Personally, I appreciated your past input, and have missed it.
"Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."August 6, 2018 at 7:46 pm #70766
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Same here , many gut feelings . All generally point to the left and growing police state . Trump is the wild card they didn’t plan on , and for us on the ground , a sigh of relief . The question is , for how long . Wheels are in motion , none of the ideas are positive that we have come up with . Most seem to point to freedom loving men to have to fight , and not with words either . We came up with thinking their are two major factions . One Marxist left as you say , and the other Fascist governmental /LE/Alphabet soups , both with their own ill agendas , both Constitution hating , both despise the liberty of free men , both attempting to gain control over the other at the expense of the nation and its people . It kind of feels like that calm beach , watching the tide go out ( wayyyyyyyy out ) , before the tsunami comes rolling in .
Part of the problem I have with this is that the “Leftists” are now the facists.
Merriams-Webster defines it as this:
: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, etc., all are now the facists, leading the charge.
Tennessee, who has been running Tennessee for a century or better? The Police didn’t create the situation, in many respects they are just as much a victim of the society that raised them and created the laws for all.August 11, 2018 at 2:15 am #70771
Antifa is Isis and the leftwing media have joined them. Its completely insane. Somekind of weird nano virus.August 11, 2018 at 7:40 pm #70772
When you consider the crimes committed by the Democrats during the election, it should be recognized that there are no bounds to what they (TPTB) are willing to commit to control the richest most powerful nation in world history.
It’s not insane that the media had joined the leftist. It is a planned controlled strategy.August 12, 2018 at 3:39 am #70773
[I]t should be recognized that there are no bounds to what they (TPTB) are willing to commit to control the richest most powerful nation in world history. It’s not insane that the media had joined the leftist. It is a planned controlled strategy.
The bottom line indeed. Fundamental evil.
"Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."August 12, 2018 at 6:04 am #70774
The media has always joined the left.
They just stopped hiding it.August 12, 2018 at 12:23 pm #70775
Top down , or ground up , things work both ways . Even the best laid plans turn to **** by human nature . On our end , we must hit from the ground up . Higher than that is out of our control and above our immediate reach . We need to concentrate our efforts and energy there , start the ripple effect . First thing we have to do is get the enforcer drones under control , they are not fellow victims of the system , as they have power , and exert control of American citizens . They are clearly perpetrators , not victim . Good news is , they are few in number if things got heavy . In a civil war or restorative revolution , they could be swept aside if they choose to be on the wrong side . Americans are a different animal , the enforcers don’t understand why wearing full military gear would infuriate the people Especially when confronting the unarmed . Walking around the streets of America like the Red Army is unacceptable . The behavior of some of the people are partly to blame , but as a whole , Americans can only be pushed so far , before we retaliate . That is what we are seeing more and more . Ground up restoration works . The key to any power are the trenches . Easier said than done , but can be done . Don’t like our forces occupying areas all over the world ? Then don’t enlist , you have now cut their ability to do anything except strictly defense . Tired of enforcement abuse ? then strike back ! Brutality with brutality , until they get back on the right side of the fence . No excuses here , people can self educate themselves , especially when you have power over another human being . They know and don’t care about right and wrong . Its a job Bub , and like all careers in any profession we can mention , its not for everybody , and some should clearly not be in the profession . If the possibility of having to go into a burning building stresses you out , then don’t join the Fire Dept . Without enforcers , they are nothing , when WE have control over them , we have cut the balls , and pulled the teeth of anybody higher . We have been conditioned to think” We the people “are helpless , that is a giant lie , we are the power , because all the man power for anything , comes from us . Hitler can pound his fist , and scream all he wants , but if the soldiers refuse to fight , he is nothing .
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