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  • #9363
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    Sen. Reid calls supporters of Nevada rancher Bundy ‘domestic terrorists’

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/17/sen-reid-calls-supporters-nevada-rancher-bundy-domestic-terrorists/

    It looks like Harry is mad he didn’t get what he wanted!

    #9368
    Tolik
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    Would somebody please just him. Then deport all the other Communists ….again at gunpoint , to a country that better suits them….like North Korea . We really do need a Stalinist purge in this country ……..perhaps after the next revolution , we can do a purge at the same time , ship them to any country that will take them .

    #9373
    Jay
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    Can someone bring me up to speed on this? From the news article this is the major issue right?

    Bundy, 67, and his large family cast their resistance to the roundup as a constitutional stand. He says he doesn’t recognize federal authority over state land.

    Alea iacta est ("The die has been cast")

    #9378
    Whirlibird
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    There are a great many words to describe harry reid, none are suitable for polite company.

    However threatening him and his is hardly something that should be done in public, let alone an electronic threat that can come back to bite one.

    Personally I’d like to see him charged and jailed for any number of reasons, let his partners and followers see him in prison orange, so they have an idea of what’s coming their way.

    #9381
    Tolik
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    They only label and charge loyal americans .

    #9384
    Whirlibird
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    There is a great deal more than that going on Jay.

    This is potentially going to get very bad.

    There are so many twists and turns in this that one may never figure it all out.

    Part of Bundys complaint comes from the fsct his family has has grazing rights to the land going back well over a century, passed down. Predating BLM and even Arizonas statehood.

    Bundy and many people have issues with the BLM owning anything, believing that the individual states own the land, not the federal gov.

    A number of constitutional experts agree with Bundy, but this will be fought out in the federal courts whose unconstitutional findings snd decisions lately are raising more than a few eyebrows.

    #9387
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    namelus
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    government trying to build it case against armed militia ( pls note this is from controlled media)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/us-usa-ranchers-nevada-militia-insight-idUSBREA3G26620140417?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

    full legal history on the case law, from government point of view ( pls note this is from controlled media)

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/54954100/ns/local_news-las_vegas_nv/t/timeline-history-land-dispute-between-cliven-bundy-blm/#.U1Ca4Ve1iKI

    ask your self what is right and fair

    #9388
    Whirlibird
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    Lets just say that when the Oathkeepers are choosing the Bundy side of this, it says a lot about the legality.

    #9396
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    Whirlibird, agree that this may get very bad!

    #9416
    LionofLiberty
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    Hello all I’m new to the forum, and, for obvious reasons I have used a alias. I’m attaching the body of an email I sent to close friends and family members just yesterday 041714.

    “As most of you know, I have been following the BLM (Building of Land Management) harassment and persecution of the Bunkerville Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy and his family. On a whim, I called 411 and got his phone number at his ranch. So, I called to give my support and ask if I could make a donation to help them restore some of their property destroyed by the BLM. I really wasn’t expecting to get thru, maybe get an answering machine. That was not the case, a very pleasant woman answered the phone who said she was a close friend of the Bundy family and had “phone duty” that day. I told her who I was and how I had been following their story in the news, and, that I wanted them to know that they are inspiring millions across the country. Also, if they needed any help, like the support they got from hundreds of people from over 40 states that I would do all in my power to come out and help. She thanked me, and said that the Bundy’s were throwing a BBQ on Friday and asked if I would come, and please bring my family. I thanked her and explained that we lived in the North East, and even if I drove day and night we probably couldn’t have made it. She was amazed that people from here were interested in what happened in a small town so far away. I again said how I felt about there predicament, and asked if there was anything I could do to help, or if I could send a few dollars to help put back there damaged infrastructure. This is what she said.

    “Patrick (alias), if you and your family could just pray for us, that would be more than enough”

    They refused any money.
    They offered to have us stay on his property if we could make the BBQ and feed us.
    They took my phone number and said he would call if they needed “Men”.
    The only thing they asked for, was our prayers.

    Honestly, I had tears in my eyes when I got off the phone.

    So, yes everyone, there still is the America we read about in our history books. It’s battered, bruised and will continue limping along until that day when millions answer the call like the neighbors of this brave American Family.

    So last night as I lay there about to go to sleep, I prayed, for my family, for the Bundy family, for their neighbors and for America.”

    So, when I finished my prayers I put my kit together, cleaned my .300 Win. Mag, Cleaned and prepped my .308 and my 1911, loaded some mags and put them in the front closet. When their call comes, or, if while I watch it becomes clear action is needed. I will throw my gear in my truck and drive the 2000+ miles and do what our founders did. I will pledge to them my life, my fortune, and and my sacred honor. It may sound corny, and like a bad movie line, but I have had enough. Our country is on the brink of either, becoming a socialist nation, or recapturing what so many have served and died for across the two and a half centuries since we threw of another tyrant, to become the guiding light of Liberty.

    I will Stand
    I Will Fight.

    #9430
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    LoinofLiberty, Thank you for your post, I think there will be many that will go! I also think it may be the beginning of something big, something that all of us have been preparing for.

    I just think that the Government will only go forward with the courts because they know what will happen.

    #9435
    Tolik
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    Lionof liberty
    I also share your beliefs , and will do the same . We all have to remember that Socialism may not be the problem , that in itself is not unconstitutional , as long as the Constitution is kept in full force , the rest really does not matter that much , what the Constitution does forbid , is totalitarian socialism …………that is indeed the enemy . I’m an independent , no one parties doctrine fits me , depends on the issue . as far as the relationship between the individual citizen and the government goes , I’m a Libertarian …………but again , strict Libertarianism in all aspects of the country would be a complete disaster …it wouldnt work , there would be no safeguards for anything . The other two parties have strays so far off the path , that both are a detriment . As far as health care goes , we should have had that a long time ago ….not this convoluted abortion the Dems pushed through …..but a flat tax and be done with it . Take care of our own , just like the support that the Bundy’s are now receiving ….very deservedly . This is one of the only modernized nations on earth , that refuses to look after its own people . Just Sayin .

    #9436
    LionofLiberty
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    Freedom, Agreed, yet, those court orders will eventually require enforcement. The next time a force like that gathers at their property, it will be in the dead of night, armed and determined to show “We The People” who is really in command. When that happens, you will have American’s firing on American’s, the greatest tragedy I could possibly fathom, yet it will happen. What will happen next will be determined by those who have the will and fortitude to stop it. As the woman I spoke with at the Bundy ranch asked, Pray, Pray for peace, but, we will need to be ready for war. War within our own borders, with our own countrymen & women. When the Senate Majority Leader calls those who helped the Bundy’s “Domestic Terrorists”, he is laying the ground work for the government to intervene. The Leviathan of our federal government cannot afford to be humiliated by a simple man and his loving, God fearing family & neighbors. Blood has already been spilled there, more will be. It’s up to us,

    #9440
    Whirlibird
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    People really need to understand Reids involvement in this.
    His son a former county commissioner, is connected with a chinese solar company and a land grab scheme.

    Terrorists, I doubt it.
    But Reid is certainly a criminal.

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/04/12/bombshell-harry-reid-behind-bundy-cattle-ranch-scandal-according-to-purged-documents-112136

    http://beforeitsnews.com/food-and-farming/2014/04/bundy-ranch-now-surrounded-by-heavily-armed-guards-as-militia-floods-to-nevada-following-harry-reid-threats-2463190.html

    One has to remember that as of this time Bundy hasn’t violated any laws. Bureaucratic regulations yes, but no laws. There is a difference.

    #9441
    LionofLiberty
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    Tolik, Thanks for the feedback.To those in power we are no more than servants, to provide their power and fortune. Politically, I’m feel same as you, a combination of many thoughts and ideals. Yet my one and only true guide is the Constitution, as it should be for all Americans. Whether they be from native Americans or immigrants who legally gained citizenship. Yet, I disagree with you on one topic. It’s not the governments responsibility to look after us. It is our responsibility to look after ourselves. The function of government is to provide trade treaty’s and provide for the common defense. I feel that States should be sovereign, aligned together for the good of it citizenry. I feel that taxes are required, but should be minimal, a flat tax of a small proportion. Healthcare was and should be a private industry, but with some guidelines.
    I really appreciate the welcome, and will keep up with all of you now that I found you. Keep you powder dry, you’ll need it.

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