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    “Russia is yet another warning sign of what’s to come for the United States.

    The timeline for the collapse of the U.S. dollar is unclear. But that it will happen is an inevitable fact of life. And given the current national debt, long-term liabilities, economic malaise and deteriorating wages, it is only a matter of time.” Shtf plan

    We are in an economic cold war. What would it take for Russia in a counter attack and collapse the US dollar?

    #32323
    Whirlibird
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    Time and money, neither of which they have in abundance.

    #32326
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    I’m amazed at the number of people who think Russia’s problem is a good thing. It is absolutely frightening. The analogy of a wounded bear is very appropriate here. If Obama goes through with the latest set of sanctions, Putin will be forced to react. I agree with Whirlybird that they have neither the money and definitely not the time to counter attack, unless they can convince the other members of BRICS to help them.

    With the Chinese economy starting to falter they may be inclined to help Russia economically. Read in another post that with the cheap price of oil, that China is starting to stockpile.

    A very volatile situation, that could turn a cold war into a hot war.

    #32328
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>Whirlibird wrote:</div>Time and money, neither of which they have in abundance.

    Or cyber war capabilities which they do have.

    #32331
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>MountainBiker wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>Whirlibird wrote:</div>Time and money, neither of which they have in abundance.

    Or cyber war capabilities which they do have.

    And underground cities which they do have like Yamantau mt. in the urals. They are very hardened.

    #32336
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    And culturally the Russians are willing to make almost unimaginable sacrifices to protect the motherland. They lost something like 20,000,000 people fighting off the Germans in WWII. We should not fool ourselves by thinking that Putin and the gang don’t think they’re not under attack by the West.

    #32337
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    Brulen, Radiation from a nuclear war will make the land radioactive for 1,000 years so they will have to live and die underground. Not much of a life.

    #32342
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    As long as Russia doesn’t go nuclear Obama won’t either, I’m not convinced he will defend us as it is. Russia could do a lot of damage between cyber attacks and other forms of sabotage.

    #32344
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>74 wrote:</div>As long as Russia doesn’t go nuclear Obama won’t either, I’m not convinced he will defend us as it is. Russia could do a lot of damage between cyber attacks and other forms of sabotage.

    74… the Bush Doctrine specifically says the US can strike first against an enemy nation. Has been approved by Congress.
    Obama in Ukraine is like someone trying to sneak under Russia’s nuclear defenses. Putin won’t let it happen.
    But things are escalating with an economic war and cyber attack.
    North Korea takes down Sony LOL.

    #32345
    Tolik
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    Same hold true for us , we will live and die underground , the lucky ones will be at ground zero .

    #32346
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    I think cyber war is more likely than nuclear. Scrambling financial records, shutting down airport control towers and other infrastructure, or just going for the grid itself.

    #32349
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    I also think cyber attack, EMP attack or some type of Bio attack but nuclear is an end game for the world so they are not interested in that. Even if Russia hit us with all there nuclear the radiation would end up all over the world and would kill everyone even the one’s that go underground may with time get radiation from water or the ground. To much radiation that would last 1,000’s of years. That is why they will not do it.

    #32356
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    freedom….the end game is all three of the above and 10 more of things we’ve never even thought of yet. What we see here is just testing the waters. They’ve had 75 years to work out the details. Its a chess game played by supercomputers that run scenarios 24/7/365 days a year. They send out spiders all over the web to search for secret messages. They observe us constantly. They plan wars etc. One never knows if this is a little skirmish or the opening gambit of judgement Day. It won’t destroy the world but it sure will set it back maybe even to the mythical 500 million survivors who will repopulate. Get out of the cities – best advice ever.

    #32445
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    Just a side note I just read this:

    “The State Department’s Rose Gottemoeller, under secretary for arms control and international security, spoke at the Brookings Institution Thursday where she reaffirmed the United States’ “unassailable” commitment to putting the nuclear weapons genie back in the bottle. Gottemoeller told the attendees at the Arms Control and Non-Proliferation Initiative-sponsored event that “the U.S. commitment to achieving the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons is unassailable.”

    She went on to note that the nation’s stockpile of active weapons is down 85 percent from maximum cold war levels, falling to 4,804 in 2013 from a high of 31,255. But, she said, “We still have more work to do.”

    I guess the level they want us to have is no nukes and everyone else will have them.

    #32447
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    That is crazy. We need to keep our nuclear weapons. This will keep the other side thinking.

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