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  • #46613
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    sledjockey
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    Here it comes and keeps on rolling…. Last year Bloomputz bankrolled I-594 that made it illegal to even hand a firearm to another person without going through an FFL for a background check. The way it is written even gun store employees can’t hand firearms across gun counters, to each other or from the truck driver to the store. There had to be some very loose interpretations of the law so that all the gun stores didn’t have to shut down. Some museums almost did….

    Anyway, we are now getting slammed with this new bill that may or may not get passed.

    http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2015-16/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/2354.pdf

    It is a ban on “assault weapons” that actually bans about 70% of all long guns with the way it is worded. It would also make all mags 10 rounds or less.

    Welcome to Kalifornia Lite, people.

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #46616
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    Anonymous
    Survivalist

    Everything anyone needs to know about the true intent of this bill is contained in the details. What do the following have to do with gun safety or gun violence?

      Influencing Outcome of Sporting Event

      Unlicensed practice as an insurance professional

      Unlawful transaction of health coverage as a health maintenance organization

      Willful Failure to Return from Furlough

      Securities Act violation

      Unlawful Misbranding of Food Fish or Shellfish 1

      Counterfeiting

      Mineral Trespass

      Unlawful Use of Food Stamps

    While clearly opposed to the above listed items (and many more like it in the bill itself), I fail to see how previous involvement in any of the above activities necessarily has any relevance to gun ownership, unless a gun was used in the commission of any of the listed items (in which case there would be a gun-related conviction anyway).

    There we have it, boys and girls. the true reason for the bill – to find as many outright, blatant excuses for prohibiting US citizens from having any contact with firearms of any sort, under the “law” (according to the totalitarians). It’s an evil, evil world out there. And there will suddenly be a large number of technical non-law abiding citizens out there in Washington who currently legally own their weapons, but want to pass them to their children or grand children, or even another still-legal gun owner in perhaps just a swap of one weapon for another – BINGO! Felony offense. Permanent prohibition from any gun ownership (once they get out of prison for their felony offense).

    The gun-grabbers can sit there, on camera, look straight into it with every bit of sincerity and say, “This law does absolutely nothing to take away the rights of law-abiding citizens to own a legal weapon.”

    Key words: (1) “law abiding citizen” and (2) “legal weapon.” Anyone that violated one of the above list items (and many more in the actual bill itself), is not a “law abiding citizen.” For the rest of their lives, per this law. But those with absolutely clear records aren’t affected, one might way – so what’s the problem? Yeah, right. Those people can still own a “legal weapon.” What are those? Anything that’s left over after the new law makes everything else NOT a legal weapon.

    I suspect we’re gonna see CW2 before they’ll ever convene, let alone conclude a Con-Con.

    I want to be absolutely clear that I am not advocating the following. At the same time, I’m honestly surprised something like this has not happened well before now. Clearly people are thinking about it in detail, or Mike Vanderboegh wouldn’t have written this, and wouldn’t have as many responses to it as he did. I just happened across this several years ago by following a link that I THOUGHT went to something entirely different (and quite innocuous). In fact, I had never heard of Mike Vanderboegh until accidentally finding this back then. Still, I will not be surprised if something of the sort comes to pass. There are a lot of P.O.’d vets and others that are just plain fed up, with the skills, motivation, and abilities to probably pull at least part of it off. And it’ll really be “on,” at that point.

    http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2008/11/vanderboegh-six-apostles.html

    #46617
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    74
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    rnews

    Sled,
    Feeling your pain. At this point in my life I simply wouldn’t live in a State that was run by leftist. Hope you have choices you can pick from.

    #46619
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    member10

    Sled ,
    Move to Arizona , wild west is still alive , constitutional carry , stand your ground , castle doctrine , nothing required for gun sales person to person . The landscape sucks , bur its a gun mecca .

    #46620
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    MountainBiker
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    Or you can come to VT where there is no gun licensing at all and very little in the way of gun laws. Handguns and long guns can be bought starting at age 16 without parental or guardian consent. There is no age requirement for possessing log guns but you have to be 16 to possess a handgun without parental or guardian consent. The Vermont State Constitution of 1793 is even more clear than the 2nd Amendment. Prior to that when it was an independent Republic, the Vermont Constitution of 1777 was similarly very clear on the right to have guns for self defense.

    #46621
    Tolik
    Tolik
    Survivalist
    member10

    Sounds like a great place !

    #46626
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    sledjockey
    Bushcrafter
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    We are on a 6-8 year plan to be able to move to either Wyoming or Alaska. Both have the hunting and lack of people that our family is after. Considering how poorly I play with other kids, those two choices are my best bet.

    VT is WAY too close to the libtards of NY, PA, and all those Mass-holes. It is like an island in the North Atlantic that can only be reached during good weather or air drop…..

    AZ wasn’t bad, but it is WAY too close to the libtards in CA…. Again, like VT and ME, the oasis next to the overflowing septic tank is not where I want to be. TX is over run with illegals, particularly from the Middle East and India/Pakistan. The idea of dealing with that whole headache isn’t very appealing either.

    Yup….. Wyoming or Alaska for me. Rather deal with the Yellowstone super volcano than the volcanic ass chunks overflowing the Demo-nazi, illegal immigration overload, or lib-tard strongholds at this point in my life.

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #46628
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    MountainBiker
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    I hear you sledjockey. I like your island analogy. Northern New England (VT-NH-ME) is blocked off from the rest of the country by NY to the West and MA to the South, with additional socialist utopia beyond those two. And NY & MA State govt are not particularly fond of their Northern New England neighbors.

    #46642
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
    Survivalist
    member10

    I will put in a plug for Wyoming.

    #46656
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    sledjockey
    Bushcrafter
    member8

    I will put in a plug for Wyoming.

    I really love Wyoming.

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #46659
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    MountainBiker
    Survivalist
    member10

    I’ve never been to Wyoming but everything I read about it is favorable except for the lack of rainfall. It has a lot going for it, more than most States. Gun-friendly, taxes are low, the population is low (big populations breed big govt), it is one of the more non-diverse States, and the climate looks to be pleasant overall. My concern about low rainfall is just my having a hard time getting my head around needing to water gardens or irrigate crops to make things grow, let alone the whole concept of water rights. I have no doubt but that’s not an issue for most folks out there though.

    I’d like to visit someday. We’ve talked about taking an extended vacation to drive out West on one route and then back via another.

    #46662
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
    Survivalist
    member10
    #46665
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    Anonymous
    Survivalist

    ROFL! Decatur? Figgers… I think the story about got it right:

    The state Legislature is controlled by Republicans and the governor is also a Republican. Oliver has yet to pick up a Republican co-sponsor for her bill. The leader of the state’s most prominent gun rights organization, Georgia Carry Executive Director Jerry Henry, predicts that Oliver’s bill will not move forward.

    Decatur – the city that changed its motto from, “A city of homes, schools, and churches,” to “A city of homes, schools and places of worship.” It’s within the I-285 loop around Atlanta, and hardly represents Southern thinking, thankfully.

    Thanks for the heads up, though. I don’t think ANYone’s out of the woods on the gun issue anymore. And Decatur will probably keep electing this (___fill in with favorite appropriate derogatory term___) to “her” seat in the State Legislature.

    One question I have for all the gun-grabbers making headlines: if the gun owners are all so dangerous, why do the gun-grabbers keep speaking out and risking their lives by enraging all these murderous, angry gun owners? LOL

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