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  • #63652
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    I sometimes read some articles on this website and some of the information is good and sometimes it is false but am posting this one because I do see problems happening in California. Like to see what all of you post after reading it.

    On a Collision Course for Civil War and It Will Begin In California

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/on-a-collision-course-for-civil-war-and-it-will-begin-in-california/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=on-a-collision-course-for-civil-war-and-it-will-begin-in-california

    #63710
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    For me, it’s just too much (more) of the daily routine we see on every one of the broadcast networks (particularly cable) – lots of speculation, and heavy use of questions to substitute for statements. That’s an old trick, and actually quite powerful at times. Often, the brain simply changes the order of the first two words (for example) to turn the question into a statement: “Is it time for Trump to be impeached?” becomes, “It is time for Trump to be impeached.” In this article’s case, it’s “Will America’s Civil War Begin In California?” (which becomes a stated “fact” within the reader’s brain, at least in some corners of one’s thought process: “America’s civil war WILL begin in California).

    An absolutely brilliant psychiatrist (now dead for about 4 decades, sadly) developed his own unique type of hypnotherapy. He used language in very unique ways, getting much deeper into people’s minds than is possible in “normal” communication. Questions such as the above are an example. If people even bother reading the article, they probably already had at least some beliefs similar to the author (Dave Hodges). If they didn’t, and they read the headline question above, their internal mental answer would likely be something like “No,” or “I doubt it.” But someone who’s more likely to read his article will also be likely to answer the question inside their own brains with, “Yes,” or “Probably.” And everything in the article following the reader’s internal answer to the headline question will then tend to be automatically accepted as verification of the reader’s “conclusion” that the civil war will indeed start in California.

    I could go on for probably pages, but won’t for obvious reasons. But I will also point out such absurdities as, “Even more telling in article, Reynolds states that Trump will likely have to send the 101st Airborne to California to quell the open rebellion.” Uh, what about Posse Comitatus (not to mention the absurdity of a sky full of parachutes descending on an American state?

    For me, the article is simply a non-starter. There’s far too much speculation, suggestion, rhetorical questions (which, as shown above are designed to produce internal answers in the reader), and shadowy unnamed “powerful” people with expertise, whose names we never learn. It reminds me of the financial trash generated from the many companies controlled by a guy named Porter Stansberry (Agora Financial, now Casey Research since his buyout, etc.), and one of their big “experts” always with “inside” information: Jim Rickards – always an imminent crisis. And really, the bottom line is: even if the civil war starts in California, we’ll simply have to deal with our own local consequences anyway – no matter how difficult.

    Just way too much speculation, hype, and suggestion to be meaningful for me. But your mileage may vary.

    #63770
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    freedom
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    GS, I am thinking the same. I like to throw it out there to see what all think here.

    #63928
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    L Tecolote
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    Edited to add content

    The publication date for the CALEXIT video was December 19, 2016. For all the dire talk about the imminence of that movement, not much has hit the “news,” here, yet. Do some want to try it? Probably, but most of them have no real clue, just high hopes and imagination.

    This commentary seemed related:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/03/12/why-democrats-would-lose-the-second-civil-war-too-n2459833

    Hat tip: SurvivalBlog.com

    Cry, "Treason!"

    • This reply was modified 8 months, 1 week ago by Profile photo of L Tecolote L Tecolote.
    #63976
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    Brulen
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    Who will fight. The whites will all leave. If they have any sense. MS13 will confiscate the house of rich celebs for their own use. The mayor of Oakland will be running for her life. I see it more like the ghost of Rodney King coming back. And not to forget the Communist Republic of Kal is into big time expansion. They will take Colorado and Nevada, along with most of Arizona. If the US congress keeps paying California off thats what will happen. Stop the money and they start the revolution. Bad outcome whichever way it goes.

    #63979
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    Brulen
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    You know Freedom. Its absolute mind neutralizing filth that comes over the cable. As I now laugh at myself for the self inflicted torture for so many years and paying how much money to them for the “messageing”.

    But today I had a special treat reading on Drudge how Matt Damon is leaving the US to buy property in Australia. Did he finally realize the california is not safe. Yes! He can blame President Trump if he wants LOL. Its only an aging moviestar rationalizing his actions for the sake of his family. Fersure. Take the money and get away BO from Luney Hollywood. Maybe just a little bit of Jason Bourne rubbed off on him afterall. Not that Australia is much better, just a different hell of sorts.

    Times Up. Wonderful example of messaging by emma watson at the oscars. To bad it wasnt appreciated.

    #64041
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    When the words Civil War are used, people think of what happened in the 1860’s. That just isn’t going to happen.

    There are States that are deemed predominantly conservative and others deemed to be predominantly liberal, but those tallies mostly include the Moderates that disagree with both the Far Right and the Far Left and vote for whichever person they see as closer to them politically. The Far Left and the Far Right may get all the media attention but they are not the majority of the population. The majority is somewhat to the left or the right of middle. This is how “liberal” States like Vermont and Massachusetts can come to have Republican Governors such as we currently do. The Republican candidates were closer to the middle of the spectrum than the Democrat candidates. In the last election here in VT, the Democrat candidate was just too far to the left for people that naturally lean a bit to the left, so they went with a moderate Republican instead. If faced with a choice between a conservative Republican vs a far left Democrat they’ll go with the far left Democrat because that person would be closer to those who are a bit to the left of middle.

    California, LaRaza, and their buddies may want to separate but they don’t have the means to make it happen.

    #64084
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    L Tecolote
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    Edited for minor corrections

    California, LaRaza, and their buddies may want to separate but they don’t have the means to make it happen.

    Depending on how the new secessionists play it out, the remaining States may be willing to let them go. They’d have to take their share of the “National Debt” with them, and various foreign players (China? Russia?) might be pleased enough at the prospect of breaking up the USA, that they’d loan them the $$ (yuan? rubles?) to make that nut, regardless of how truly broke they really are.

    The big unknown is how the other States would treat it. As a native Californian of several decades (ahem!) mand having travelled to about a third of the other States, I have paid attention to how the locals elsewhere seem to regard California. Only briefly, in the early war years following the 9/11 attack, did I encounter anything other than disdain for California, and this from States whose emigrees after WW2, helped make it the Socialist “paradise” mit has become. I think the anti-American antics the current government is pulling, combined with a sales pitch that the Left Stream media would be only too happy to provide, would handily turn the trick.

    But I am still here, and though planning an escape, don’t have that perspective y’all have. Thoughts?

    Cry, "Treason!"

    • This reply was modified 8 months, 1 week ago by Profile photo of L Tecolote L Tecolote.
    #64116
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    We lived there for over 7 years solely due to employment, then escaped when we’d had enough.. We found some of the best of the best there, and also some of the worst of the worst. The latter took over our neighborhood JUST after we escaped. Wouldn’t go back there for any reason, any longer. We called it the Granola Capitol of the World (the land of fruits, nuts, and flakes), and have only watched it get worse since we left.

    Very happy to live in the South, hoping it will indeed rise again. And the only reason I’d hesitate for the PRC (Peoples Republic of California) to secede is because of the sudden intrusion by either China or Russia (or both?) in the newly “liberated” nation attached to our left coast. We don’t need them within one foot of each of California’s border states.

    Don’t end up like too many of the whites in South Africa – get out while you still can (and still have a couple of years or more left to enjoy the freedom). I understand those “several decades” all too well. Don’t waste ‘em.

    #64224
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    For a State to be allowed to secede by agreement with the rest would be vastly complicated dealing with the finances and rights of those choosing to remain in California. The negotiations would take a decade at the minimum. National Debt, Federally owned properties, military bases, Social Security, and Medicare just to start the list. Beyond that the remaining US would then have a “Mexican” style border nearly twice as long as we have now to secure. Assuming CA would essentially adopt an open borders policy with Mexico, that doubling of the border would allow vast numbers of new illegals to pour into the US. To the extent the LaRaza gang has influence in CA politics, they might encourage that in hopes of further Hispanifying (my made up word) more of the US so as to eventually expand CA to include additional States. I’ve read that CA, as wealthy as it supposedly is, already has the highest poverty rate in the nation. Cut off Uncle Sugar paying for their entitlements and how will CA be able to support them? How many would seek a better deal by leaving CA for the US?

    #64225
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    MB, what you’re describing is what Marx penned 170 years ago about the intentional destruction of the social and political order, and what Cloward and Piven expanded upon in detail in their 1966 article. There does not NEED to be a plan to “support” all the welfare recipients. The plan is to collapse the system – as Cloward and Piven disclosed and deeply hoped for (and Frances Fox Piven still clings to even today). Human beings are entirely expendable – mere means to an end.

    #64325
    Tolik
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    Interestingly enough , the question of secession has never been resolved . The South was brought back into the Union by force of arms . Then the country moved on , in order to put the tragic event behind them , without settling the issue , and that is how it remains . One state alone , to be able to make it , odds are very low , groups of states , however , could be successful . People would have to be willing to sacrifice their lifestyle greatly , and make due with less .I dont see that happening soon , especially in a place like California , where appearance is everything . If a group of states attempted it today , and if they didnt attempt violence , they could probably get away with it .That was the problem with the first civil war ……………..if the South had not fired on Fort Sumpter , the Feds would have been hard pressed to justify military action . They also would not have gotten the support they needed , even in Union states .

    #64326
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    If there is money in the game, there is always a way. The arrogance of california politicians and courts is amazing. Other countries like China or Russia would love to dump money into a state pulling away from the federal government. Crimea succession from Ukraine wasn’t very long ago. And it came about thru direct involvement of the US in their politics. Almost as if it were a bidding war. The battle lines were drawn and the US lost. No doubt the federal government can prevent a Republic of California but maybe not so much if the President Trump is under a viral hate attack at the time. President Trump may declare California in revolt. People have to be arrested and put in prison. It could lead to antifa vs alt-right fighting it out in the streets. Supremacy wins or the Constitution is gone. Hillary gets her left wing ragnarok. Oh yeah the left has prepared for it and they’re crazy enough to try it.

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