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  • #16803
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    solar panel are interesting for me because of it’s practicality and mobility. it means it can be install directly exposed to sun, and it’s done. not required any moving part like wind generator or hydro generator. and the very important thing is not required any fuel.
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    after experimenting solar panel ( measuring it’s voltage with multimeter, load it directly with 12dc light bulb, etc ), connecting it directly to 12 volt battery ( after pass it through diode just to make sure we have the right flow of electric current ) and experimenting with DC to AC inverter. i came to realization that most of our need actually can be fullfilled just by DC electricity.
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    so in my mind i have a plan to setup dual system ( AC and DC system ). AC system are used as minimum as possible. in DC supply also have two setup ( 5 volt and 12 volt ). for converting 12 volt to 5 volt i just using one piece 7805, or if it requiring more than one amps, we can used multiple IC 7805 in paralel. 5 volt supply are used for handphone, smartphone, tablet pc, radio receiver, etc. and for laptop, wifi router, LED lighting, etc we are using 12 dc directly from battery ( if we need to regulate it to exactly 12 volt DC we can setup battery in 18 or 24 volt DC and pass it to IC 7812 )
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    having DC system also means changing our paradigm. replacing our existing AC tool / equipment to DC that only require a fraction of existing wattage. Like if we using incandescent or flourescent light, we can replace it with 12 volt LED lighting. if we using PC computer that requiring 100 to 300 watt, we can replace it by Laptop or tablet PC that only need 36 watt ( 12 volt at 3 amps ). changing existing TV ( that require AC ) to pocket TV or TV that can run on DC.
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    by doing that ( changing to DC appliances ) not only we are saving in term of wattage but also means we can setup smaller solar array and battery ( which is of course saving money ).
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    maybe there are question like how if we want to using refrigerator, washing machine, electric cooker, electric heater for room, or electric water pump ?. this is tough question because of we need big kilowatt solar array ( 5-10 KW ).
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    in normal condition ( and in SHTF ) actually we can replaced it with “old fashion” way, which is more “electric friendly”.
    rather using electric refrigerator ( whether AC or DC ), we can use root cellar storage. electric heater can be replaced with wood stove ( also we can cook with it ) or using biogas from digesting manure / organic waste also simultaneously we can harvesting electricity by using peltier plate. it means we get the heat also electricity.
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    in SHTF situation using electric washing machine are wasting electricity because of electricity are too precisious. especially if we only have relative small solar array or if we have big array but we must deal with bad weather ( our solar array, wind generator and hidrogenerator are not optimal in producing electricity in bad weather ).
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    so we must have a plan in using our solar and battery system also in using our tool or appliance that need electricity. including duration of time and wattage. because running out of electricity, especially in bad weather it’s not a good condition. especially if we need extra wattage for emergency purpose. such as if we are run out of dry wood for heating we can using emergency electric heater ( we just need nichrom wire in the right length / resistance, heat resistant to hold wire like ceramic or pottery, a little wire and switch and it’s done ).

    #16804
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    ronym
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    emp strike from sun maybe are not a bigger threat to our electrical system ( compared to emp strike from nuclear blast ). if our position are far-far away from city ( at least 30 km from nearest city ).
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    because if we take a look from “nuclear strike target” in probable nuclear war, the most target are in city and strategic military asset.
    that’s why if we have bug out place / homestead, that located in remote country or in the middle of nowhere then big chance are our equipment are safe from emp nuclear strike.
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    to learn more in shielding from EMP this is a good link :

    http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html

    http://thebiozz.blogspot.com/2010/09/0-emp-shielding-in-under-hour-at-home.html

    #16808
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    freedom
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    We are not talking about a nuclear strike, an EMP attack will be some were in the middle of the U. S. at about 300 mile high and would cover all areas not just cities.

    #16868
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    ronym
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    ( maybe this post more relevant in thread about Bug In city )
    Just consider read John Titor story for another possible nuclear war scenario.
    He said, the biggest threat for Russia are not in the rural area but in the city.
    And Russia will be USA biggest trade partner in post nuclear war. so does china and the rest of the enemy.
    They will let us in the Rural area to survive and rebuild this nation in the near distant future.
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    From strategic military and economic perspective, this is the most logical scenario.
    Just imagine this, if we are allied forces who want to annihilate enemy in their own teritory, but also gaining resources from their teritory what we will do ?
    yup, we only detonate nuclear in limited target. not 300 miles in the sky that will spray nuclear waste in all of place that will harm anybody because of radiation.
    moreover, if we want to cooperate with more “peacefully” partner, and we know for sure their position, then what we will do to them ?
    yup, we will not drop a single nuclear destroyer to them, because destroying them means gaining nothing in the future.
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    There is more interesting perspective in the story of John Titor, from citizen of USA perspective, the biggest enemy are not Russia, China, etc but… “you know who”…
    so does the biggest enemy of Russia also not in the rural area.
    yup… Russia biggest threat are in the city.
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    so what John Titor are telling us ?
    yup, if we are in the rural area or at least 40-50 km from nearest city and nearest military asset, then we are safe from nuclear blast.
    They will let us survive to rebuild this nation and possibly become their potential partner ( economic, spiritual ) in the near distant future.
    why ?
    maybe because we are more conservative about destructive war. we are not crazy moron which killing innocent people just for fun. we are more peacefull people although we have defensive means to destroy anyone who want to ruin our life or our familiy member life ( we are forced to kill if other defensive means are useless ).
    They will let us survive with all our belonging ( including our solar array, electronic equipment, etc ).
    after all, who else will rebuilt this nation ?.
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    From Religious perspective, Russia ( orthodox christianity ) are more similar to common folk in rural area. yup, they who believe in Jesus and God, compared to citizen of city which is more sinfully people. Because of have little faith in God, doesn’t care with their neighbour suffering, commit adultery, etc ( yup they are doing all of prohibition mentioned in Ten Commandement ). So from God’s perspective, nuclear blast are punishment for this people.
    especially their leader, which is the biggest threat for humanity because of their wicked deed to innocent people in vietnam, iraq, afganistan, africa, etc.
    also you know who threaten us ( common folk ) with their supperior authority and gun ?
    yup, you know who…

    #16878
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    freedom
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    ronym, That is not true at all, rural areas would be in trouble after 7 days and rural areas will get the radiation. 1. All big cities in the U. S. have many nuclear power plants that if the cities were hit with a nuclear bomb each the radiation would go everywhere.

    2. it also depends on the wind, It will take some big bombs to destroy the cities also the U. S would be sending nuclear bombs there way too! The world would see radiation all over.

    #16882
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    freedom
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    ronym,
    On the last part Vietnam were Communist, Iraq was a dictator that killed many of there own people, and they are killing them self’s right now again, they are animals. On Afghanistan they are terrorist, dictators, and they treat there women like property, some animals are treated better then the women. So I think this book auther is full of ****.

    Then you say that nuclear bombs are going to hit cities but at the end you say(also you know who threaten us(common folk) with their superior authority and gun? yup, you know who) Well that doesn’t sound like city folks to me, it sounds like he is talking about rural farmland folks to me. He has a lot of his facts wrong.

    The hole book sounds like fiction to me. Since the 60’s there has been talks of nuclear attacks but everyone know that if there was a nuclear war the planet earth would end, Russia and the U. S. have enough nuclear bombs to radiate the planet. This will never happen. EMP yes since no radiation on the grown will happen except maybe some nuclear plants that heat up.

    #16893
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    ronym
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    @freedom
    ever heard about agenda 21 ?
    or depopulation plan by illuminati or group like that ?
    so what we know are, they have a plan to wipe out 3 billion people from planet earth
    the interesting part is, it’s match with many event describe in John Titor story
    so what we get here are, not only we know this plan are exist
    but also how to achieve that goal ( 3 billion dead )
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    i know… i know… it seems like science fiction movie story
    but it’s up to you to make it as possible scenario for “PLAN X” or not
    i personally learning many possible future scenario from many perspective ( not just one or two )
    because in the future we must deal with different scenario and outcome
    which is based on past time or not
    like if we want to make plan to survive nuclear war, it is 100% different than conventional war ( some of us ever survive it )
    but none of us who ever survive from nuclear blast
    so our only source for survival in nuclear war are from survivor of Nagasaki and Hiroshima ( which is maybe we never heard of them exist )

    #16899
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    freedom
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    ronym, The illuminati or elites may have plans to depopulate but they love money and assets(land, building, companies) so they are not interested in destroying the cities only the people in the cities. So nuclear bomb is out of the question.

    They do like EMP, virus infections, or any other way to eliminate the population without destroying property and assets that they own or want to own in the future.

    And if this groups (illuminates) exist they are all over the world elites which means they are Europeans, Americans, Russians, Chinese, and many more from other countries. So that means they all do not want to destroy land by nuclear bombs since the radiation would stay in the land for over 100 years or more. They would make the area none valuable to them. There is no value to them to destroy the cities and only own the farmland.

    Also remember that if that were true, then they have plans to control the rural areas by any means. So rural areas would see hell of a war from them.

    All they want is to depopulate not destroy. They goal is depopulate and control the population by dictatorship.

    This is were I do not think he is right on this one.

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