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    Whirlibird
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    Another step up in russsian weaponry, a brand new tank able to combat the Abrams on all fields, except one.

    It can’t survive dry pavement at parade speeds.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/07/russian-tank-parade_n_7235228.html

    Any bets someone has a new Siberian address?

    (I wonder if Luckup had anything to do with the design?)

    #40802
    Tolik
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    Pretty funny ,
    but thats not all that unusual when it comes to ” new stuff ” , no matter who makes it . We had a lot of problems with our own equipment when it first came out , its all part of the process . Whats even more embarrassing are when companies go to show their newest < plane , tank , etc . to the military , and it either crashes or craps out like this one did . That happens a lot . Murphy’s Law is universal . Porsche and Henschel were in competition with each other to come up with a super tank for WW2 . The Porsche prototype crapped out ………..right in front of Hitler himself …………………………the other company got the contract , and it went on to become the Tiger 1 . The M16 , when it first came out was an unreliable hunk of junk , they corrected the problems and it was fine after that .

    #40804
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    WhiteKnight
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    Ouch, comrade Vlad will not be pleased. Indeed, new stuff always has unforeseen kinks to be worked out.

    #40806
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Heh…

    How do you say “DERP Mk 1″ in Russian?

    Lookin’ at YOU Tolik!

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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    #40808
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Hey Tolik…

    You guys been making Derp Tanks for a long time…

    [attachment file=”KV1 Derp Tank.jpg”]

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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    #40811
    Malgus
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    Oops… duplicate post…

    My bad.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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    #40822
    Leopard
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    And then you may look at this design..

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    #40835
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Military equipment is no different than the Automobile industry , looks good on paper , and even passes the field trials , goes into production ……….then gets delivered with a defective part . I looked at that again , it seems like a Transmission problem , as it was clearly in gear and unable to go into neutral . That was just one tank , not the only one they have , and they have field tested it quite a bit . Ive seen pictures of Abrams being towed as well . Seems they had some issues with the desert sand getting into places it shouldnt . I’m sure that has been corrected by now also . In WW2 , the Germans had some bad a$$ tanks that were feared by all nations …………….but they suffered from transmission failures , the germans were never able to make one that could handle the weight of the Tiger 1 , 2 , or Panther before the war ended . The design and function is probably fine , but Murphy travels the globe . Malgus , love the KV with the troll face . The translation for DERP MK 1 is ДEPП 1 знак .

    #40882
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Tolik,

    The best all around tank of WWII was the Panther VG. Had the best combination of armor, weaponry and mechanical reliability.

    Thick, sloped armor, low profile, a HV 75mm main gun, it was fast and they apparently solved most of the transmission issues… they just didn’t make enough of ‘em…

    Contrast that with a DERP tank – big, slow, moderate armor, an insanely powerful main gun, just not very accurate. And a ridiculously slow reload time… the Germans made plenty of DERP tanks and other vehicles… so did the Russians.. the SU152 was a DERP tank… couldn’t really hit anything reliably, but when it did hit something, it was DRT. The German RW61 was a DERP gun… 38cm main gun, built on a King Tiger chassis… even the Allies got in on the derp with the Churchill VII….

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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    #40890
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    Brulen
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    Didn’t they call them iron coffins. I always wondered where the term heavy metal came from.

    #40893
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Brulen,

    I know that we called the Sherman tank – any incarnation of it – a “Zippo” tank, being as it was rather cheaply made and sparked up pretty good when hit by just about anything. Just like a zippo lighter. That’s what we get for using gasoline.

    The Herms used diesel mostly. You could shoot holes through their tanks (I kid – few things could make holes in a Tiger, Panther or King Tiger), and they’d keep going. Diesel no ‘asplodey…

    Imma have to do some research where “iron coffin” came from…

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #40895
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    They also called the Sherman the ” Tommy cooker ” as they had such a bad habit of burnig when hit , before the crew could get out . The IS series of tanks were built specifically to deal with the Panther and Tiger . When first encountered , German crews were told to avoid contact with an IS , whenever possible , as by that time , they needed every tank they could get , and couldnt afford to loose any if they didnt have to . The Pershing was an effective antidote on the US side , but like the IS , they entered late in the war , and with complete air superiority , ground targets had a very hard time . One thing the Russians were famous for in WW2 , were their horrific artillery barrages . Artillery was cheap , fast , and easier to make , and they fielded them very heavily from 43 on . Any tanks caught in that were decimated . Their rockets were very inaccurate , but would lay waste to an entire area . We started putting rockets on Shermans , because of the successes with them on the eastern front . Yes we did talk to each other back then .

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