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    namelus
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    #48974
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    What I find even more appalling is the fact that 22 vets per day are killing themselves – that’s 8030 in just one year. I watched a video last night about a remarkable program for vets with PTS issues, and one of their “graduates.” He tells the story of having lived with the thought of killing himself every day for years, and finally one day took out his Glock 19, sat down at his desk, put the gun in his mouth, and was about to pull the trigger. At that moment, he thought about “some other m— f— raising my kids.” He couldn’t handle that thought even more than he couldn’t handle living. He then called the VA suicide hotline and was placed on hold for 40 minutes. (I was entirely unsurprised – but livid.) Thankfully and miraculously, he found a way out, and is now paying it forward to help others out of the personal hell so many live in.

    In NO way am I attempting to minimize or hijack this thread topic. But while some of those killed by police did probably need to be removed from the gene pool, NONE of the dead vets needed to remove themselves from the world – they just didn’t have the means to go on. Meanwhile politicians and government bureaucracies won’t do what’s really needed to stop it from happening. The “government” rules us – whether it be those in the police forces (which is not all inclusive, thankfully), or those in Washington or state capitols or municipal government buildings.

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #48975
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
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    A load of excrement. Just another liberal smear piece.

    Subtract the justified shootings, subtract the suicide by cop’s, and that bs number changes.

    Not that anyone cares.

    #48977
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    Brulen
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    You want vets to be proud of America again? That will take a lot of work. Electing trump and getting rid of the blackness eating the heart of Washington would be a start.

    #48978
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    74
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    Obviously what is at issue and the crux of the article is the concept of what is justified. If you accept the current environment as all it’s supposed to be then your all good. If you feel uncomfortable with the local gendarmerie standing behind you with his hand on his gun ready to shoot you; after he stoped you for a minor traffic violation, then you might think things could be handed differently.

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    #48979
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    If you accept the current environment as all it’s supposed to be then your all good.

    And for me, at least, that’s a very major part of the whole picture. I would recommend against anyone I know and care about joining either a police force OR the military at this point in our history. And it pains me greatly to say that, because there still are so many good people in both professions. But they are so often misused as political pawns, don’t get backing when they should, and are in harms way unnecessarily all too often, with rules of engagement that are absurdly inadequate in too many cases. Do some “go off” on their own and ruin it for the rest? No doubt. But there’s little protection for either profession when it’s a truly complex situation, and clearly not just the officer’s or military person’s “fault” (if at all).

    But as long as we’ve got a massive number willing to vote for a socialist for President of the United States, a massive number willing to vote for a career criminal and dirtbag for the same office, and the same anti-constitutionalists keep getting re-elected decade after decade by voters all across the nation, the constitutional republic doesn’t have a chance of survival. Hardly anyone understands what that even means, let alone what’s in the Constitution in the first place – and why. Either it’s our fundamental legal document, or it is not. And in fact, it effectively is not, any longer. Thus, GLWT! (Good luck with THAT)

    We had a number of local elections last week. With well over 2000 people registered to vote at the precinct where I voted, only a bit over 400 people bothered to show up despite MASSIVE campaigning by one of our own for a council position, along with people going door-to-door for our own neighborhood candidate. His opponent – who won – is a total sleazebag, lying, ambulance-chaser attorney with tons of money behind him even from out of state (for a municipal election!?!?). County wide, the turnout was only a bit over 10%, and that included a US Senator, congressmen, many state and local officials. Almost no one is invested in the very method by which we claim freedoms (fast becoming illusions) that surpass anyone else in the world. That’s just another way of saying what was said above: Too many “accept the current environment as all it’s supposed to be.”

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #48986
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    Brulen
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    GS…

    There is large scale indifference. But on the other hand my area is almost in a panic to set up a political and environmental survival infrastructure. There are so many meetings and projects going on I can’t keep track of them anymore. They recently got in a farm credit east Corp adding 50 jobs to the area. I can’t say it’s good or bad really. It’s a rural area and suddenly millions of $ are flooding in for developments. That of course attracts the planners and consultants like flies. If people weren’t bugging out of the higher density population areas I think this place would be a backwater. People are essentially voting to take the money. Free elections? I don’t think so. The only political principle I see working is get the money upfront. And it will be provided by the state, the Feds or somebody. Less freedom more taxes being the consequence. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. Hey, who am I to complain. My 1 vote is worth about .01% and if the economy crashes I have enough silver bullets saved. The next time atlas shrugs it’s going to be the big one. Who doesn’t know that by now?

    Atlas shrugged.

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