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  • #27391
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    MountainBiker
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    On the Hurricane Irene thread there were a couple mentions of lyme disease being something to take into account when picking a location to live. The attached map shows it is endemic in the Northeast and Upper Midwest, and if you look closely you can see it popping up across the country. Also attached is the CDC’s website on lyme disease.

    http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/maps/interactivemaps.html

    http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/

    For those of us that live where lyme disease is endemic, pretty much everyone is aware of it and most take some precautions. What I do is shower and change clothes after doing any work in the yard, though I haven’t found any ticks on myself yet. Deer ticks are very tiny though. If caught early on, lyme disease is easily cured. If not caught early lyme disease can be totally debilitating and may not be curable at all. Based on a good friend of my son’s who is debilitated with it, finding really good lyme disease specialists is difficult now, so come SHTF the only cure will be prevention. Everyone needs to keep in mind that if it isn’t in your area now, it eventually will as the geographic spread increases every year.

    #27437
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    MB – I posted a few months ago about the positives of wearing nylon stockings (many military guys do do this BTW). Growing up in western PA til 15, then CT til 20’s….never had, saw or knew what a tick was. And, I was around a lot of animals most of every day. When I arrived back to VA in very late ’80’s was y 1st viewing and experiencing of any tick. Much less a deer tick. Now I, needless to say, know better.

    Doctors here routinely will give you a prescription for Doxycycline – it is that common. They would prefer to let you have a script you can take the first sign of the bulls-eye red around the tick bite than try and deal with the myriad of complications when left untreated or undiagnosed for any length of time. Ask your DR for a script if in a tick area – or if you are ‘planing’ on traveling to one;) – or get the fish antibiotic equivalent at the very least

    Back to the stockings. As it is hard to see or feel deer ticks, I don’t trust showers alone. They can easily hide in your hair/hair line/ behind an ear/ or on a back you have no other person check for you. We won’t talk about your privates! Chuckle. If you wear a pair of nylon hose – even if just knee highs, under your socks – a cut a place for fingers and thumb and wear knee high versions on your arms…the deer ticks, tiny though they may be -will not get through to attach to your skin – and bonus – you can see them!.Don’t be stupid and think ‘Oh I’m a guy – ‘pantyhose?’ I know military dudes, incl my late special forces friend who routinely employ them. Lyme disease is a debilitator and hard for many Doctor’s/tests to properly diagnosis.

    My sister was told she had ‘mono’. I busted out laughing, Poor Putz doctor – big red bulls-eye on her lower calf from a deer tick she got while wearing shorts and no shoes/socks by our pond.

    Put you pant legs into your boots after duck taping the bottoms of your pants tight to your ankles, over your nylon ‘leg and crotch protectors’. Wear long sleeves over your nylon arm protectors. It is much more of a risk than people are willing to believe. I have at least 5 friends from early thirties to 70 that are still suffering debilitating health issues, still intravenous drugs, barely able to walk, stiff, multiple over-lapping symptoms…. from undiagnosed Lyme’s disease. Don’t take it lightly. And have someone else check your scalp too when outside in brush and stuff for any length of time. Prime hiding spot.

    OK done ranting. No Nonsense should be in YOUR BOB gentlemen.

    Off soap box… :)

    #27441
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    tweva, your comments about the doctor being wrong with your sister is right on. I should have elaborated when I said good lyme disease doctors are hard to find. It seems that few doctors are properly trained in diagnosing, let alone treating lyme disease. A formerly athletic teacher from my kid’s elementary school, who was 40ish if I recall correctly, committed suicide a couple years ago as a result of how debilitated and in pain she was. I’ve got some doxycycline for my fish set aside. The situation will be even worse come SHTF once everyone stops mowing their lawns. Hopefully we’ll have more cold endless winters like we had this past year as they help kill back the bug populations.

    #27442
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>MountainBiker wrote:</div>Hopefully we’ll have more cold endless winters like we had this past year as they help kill back the bug populations.

    OH MB! I know it is good to kill off the ‘crappy’, PIA bugs…but I am NOT looking forward to another exceedingly cold, long winter. Especially as this one will no doubt be rather overcast and gloomy with all the particulate matter in the atmosphere from all the volcanoes that have been throwing ash/etc. in the air all year. Sigh.

    Finished laying down the last of the milky spore today matter of fact as this year it was the year of Japanese beetles

    #27458
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    I don’t know tweva. Last winter really did a number on the mosquitos around here. I’m often out real early in the early morning working in the yard and unlike every other year, I rarely was bothered with mosquitos this year. Same thing early evening when the mosquitos are usually out in abundance…almost none this year. I think what happened was when they were hatching out last spring the cold kept killing them off. That extra month of winter did pay some dividends. I’ll bet it whacked the tick population back pretty good too given how deep the frost went. Then again I’m still in shorts until it drops below 50 degrees, unless its sunny & not windy and then I’m good in shorts down to about 45. Genetically adapted to the cold I suppose.

    #27467
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    Here’s a good backgrounder on Lyme Disease, especially with regards to man-made origins:

    https://generationswithvision.com/broadcast/the-rise-of-auto-immune-diseases/

    As a hunter, these boots (called “snake boots”) are what I use for hunting:

    http://www.danner.com/jackal-ii-snake-boot-17-realtree-apg.html?gclid=CMfOh8f7u8ECFZBi7AodpFAALA

    You can tuck your pants into the top of the boot, they are super-light and water-proof as well. While intended to protect against snakes, they do a great job against ticks as well.

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