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    Tolik
    Tolik
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    I was at the post office today , picking up a package . I noticed a HUGE line waiting for passport docs and pics . This is a small city , so that big a line for passports is unusual . Given how butt hurt the left got when they lost the election , I’m wondering if they are planning to leave for more Socialist pastures ? One can only hope ! Has anybody noticed a higher than usual passport run sense after the election ? I know this is profiling , but they all looked like whinny liberals to me .

    Relocate a Liberal Foundation
    A non profit organization , who’s goal is to provide financial assistance to any liberal who chooses to relocate to a foreign country . The RLF will attempt to finance part , if not all relocation expenses under the condition that the liberal sign a contract , stating that said relocation is permanent , and will not attempt to reenter the United States , said liberal must also renounce their US citizenship in favor of their country of relocation . Please give to the RLF , each donation is tax deductible , and your donation will make everybody happier . The RLF is formerly known as the Red Star foundation , reuniting Communists back with their motherland . :}

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    GeorgiaSaint
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    They ain’t gonna relinquish their US citizenship – it will cost them too much money (it’s shocking the penalty the US government exacts of anyone renouncing their citizenship). Plus, they won’t be willing to give up all their gummint freebies. They’ll just live the expat life until the next big lib is running for office, when they’ll come back to rabble-rouse and vote for said lib.

    BUT – one can at least dream and smile at the idea of a tide of libs pouring across the border…. Ahhhh! :-)

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

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    MountainBiker
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    Expats can still vote. Though I doubt we’ll truly see people leave in meaningful numbers, the sentiment they are expressing speaks to just how wide the schism is in our society.

    A good friend of mine of 30 years standing is very liberal. He knows I’m conservative and that I hold dual US-Canadian citizenship. We respect each others space on political matters and will occasionally find common ground on specific issues, but we generally just steer clear of heavy political discussions. Twice in the past month he has made comments on my Canadian citizenship, almost in a wistful way that he wished he had that option.

    The crazy part of all this “leave the US” drama is that though they lost the election they have not lost the war by a long shot. Trumps electoral win was big but he won by razor thin margins in several States. Had Hillary been just a little better getting the vote out she’d of won. The liberals continue to run pretty much all of the major cities where the bulk of the population lives. They control the major media and the schools. Long term demographics are on their side. Just as the liberals need to have some introspection about how they’ve ignored and demonized the white working class that won the election for Trump, conservatives need to realize that though we just won a major battle (Trump’s election), the war is far from over. It is seeming like the liberals are more emboldened than ever to push their agenda by whatever means they have at their disposal.

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    Brulen
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    Both lib and conservative high school students here have made statements at a flagpole vigil. In other words the Lib run common core high school is a mess. One kid said to the effect you can’t control who hurts you or wins an election! The other saying, we won … this is not the time to rub it in but to celebrate. There were demonstrations for and against Trump by the students.
    A demo woman prominent in the party went to organize a small “what to do” party in her home, instead of a few people, 85 dems showed up. They had to move the gathering to a hall and turn it into a meeting. Apparently nothing was decided and they’re in chaos hell. The newspaper here called the election victory a romp for Trump. They won’t leave and they suddenly found out they’re surrounded by trump votes who want their gun rights back. They are mostly older people and the next eight years are not going to be happy ones for them in Nys. Seriously they are more likely to move to downstate NYC areas than Canada. I doubt they feel safe in this area. Crocodile tears are flowing for them….lol.

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    #50457
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    The liberals continue to run pretty much all of the major cities where the bulk of the population lives. They control the major media and the schools. Long term demographics are on their side.

    And that is the reason I still believe that we’ve likely already lost the country as envisioned originally. The schools are probably the biggest factor, because they shape the attitudes and beliefs of young adults as they are most able to be influenced. They’ve been molded by public education while still at home, then go away (generally) to college, and it’s basically over for most of them. Then they reproduce, instill the same values in their kids, and the beat goes on.

    While I do not like Trump the man, and find him crude and certainly nothing to be proud of to represent our nation, I am at least hopeful that the issues that have mattered most to him for decades, will be areas where he can make a difference. But he’s in an uphill battle with Republicrats in Congress that have an entrenched history of voting with their outstretched wallets in the end, not differing party platforms, and Trump threatens that. I don’t think they’ll LET him do much of what he wants.

    The one bright spot – even if it is only a temporary (few years at best) factor – is one I’ve opposed strongly and vocally – the use of executive orders. Properly used, a President has every right to order things within the Executive Branch of government. So where agencies exist within his control, and with most laws specifying that implementing language of laws will come after passage through bureaucratic decision-making, I am hopeful that Trump will dismantle the bureaucratic nightmare that is Washington DC, instead of these across the board equalized cuts across all departments. There, he could make life much more bearable for companies (particularly small businesses) as well as individuals – through the use of executive orders. And if used in that manner, not beyond the bounds of the Executive Branch as Obama has done, I would be thrilled. In that manner, let him end up with the highest number of EOs of any president, and I’ll be a happy camper. It’ll drive the libbies nuts – let ‘em leave. But as MB said, they still vote, and they’d come back to support the “right” Super-libbie candidate as soon as they thought they had a chance to win again, with not only the presidency, but Congress as well.

    And though Brulen’s right about the older unhappy folks, many of Trump’s support is with older people as well. And they’ll be dying off over the next 4-8 years, and particularly the next 10-20 years. Then it’s those edumucated younger adults – the products of public schools and liberal colleges that will be in the vast majority again as we fade away.

    We shall see….

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

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