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  • #31289
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    TheyCallMeMoose
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    I know about the box of broken glass or a bag of marbles down the front doorstep, and ive even heard of hanging fishing hooks from the roof to create a nasty little surprise. But does anybody have any other ideas for some defensive little booby traps to have for the house?

    "I'd be a dumbass if i didn't plan for EVERY contingency"

    #31293
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    freedom
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    rnews

    The problem with the booby traps is that it will only help slow down the home invasion but if the they have a weapon you will need to defend your self. These booby traps will make the criminal very mad. They are good if you are armed. They can slow them down but remember that it will make them mad too.

    So you need to be ready to defend your self.

    Now about the booby traps, it all depends on were you thing they are going to come in. Is it throw the window? Is your window made of wood or aluminum? How does your window open, up and down or sideways?

    Do you think they will be coming in throw your front door, back door or bed room door?

    All questions that will help everyone here give you some ideas on what type of booby trap to use.

    Also remember what I had said before, you need a weapon. Maybe a baseball bat or a knife. The knife can be any type of knife.

    #31299
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
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    Anything you do must be post shtf as traps that may kill, maim, injure, etc are prosecuted heavily.

    Secondly, be double bloody careful about this.
    The neighbors 9yo gets injured after climbing over the fence to get his ball, there will be repercussions.

    #31301
    RROAMM
    RROAMM
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    Be VERY careful about booby traps and defensive measures, you may be charged with a crime for injuring someone and open yourself to a lawsuit. Most municipalities have laws and/or ordinances against doing something like that. I remember a case in Chicago, where a bar owner was tired of being broken into and he rigged a booby trap. Stopped the criminal but the bar owner was charged with assault (I might be wrong on the specific charges).
    You might want to look into a home security system, there are many reputable companies out there. Just make sure they are have a UL certified monitoring center. Contact your homeowners insurance company and find out if they offer a discount for having a alarm system, it helps reduce the cost of the monthly monitoring costs.

    #31302
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    member8

    Whirl is right.

    Pre SHTF, even if you post all over the place that your digs are booby-trapped, you are still liable for any injuries sustained.

    Famous case some time ago. Store owner kept getting burglarized over and over. His insurance dropped him. He refused to close shop. One more burglary, and he was out of business.

    So, he rigged a booby trap pointed at the window where most of the break-ins took place. Posted signs all over about booby traps. Some Orc came through the window and got his head blown off. Signs didn’t matter. Dude went to jail.

    Anti-personnel devices are as old as humanity. That said, some are better than others. Some take some forethought and work.

    There are books devoted to the subject. Some are actual scholarly works. Some are put together by any yay-hoo with a word processor and time. Some are military grade. A thorough interwebz search should yield some decent starting points…

    I cannot reiterate enough Whirl’s warning – in a PRE-SHTF world, booby traps will get you thrown into the Gray Bar Hotel for an extended stay. In a POST-SHTF world, they’re a good idea bordering on mandatory…

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #31313
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    freedom
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    rnews

    Whirlibird is right, do not use booby traps till the SHTF times, to many laws that will get you in trouble.

    Have a bat next to your bed, or mace.

    Why I started with telling you to have a gun is because where I live in Miami, Florida everyone has a gun so the criminals will have a gun. Florida law is very good for the home owner.

    #31405
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    TheyCallMeMoose
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    I assumed that this would be post SHTF…why would anybody put traps out during a peaceful time? im talking about BOOM the economy collapses and theres people coming down my street breaking into houses looking for supplies, what sorta counter measures could i employ? and yes of course they will either do 2 things to the intruder, they will discourage them enough to keep moving and go down the street or it will piss them off. slow them down enough to get into a better position to engage them you know? i dont want to be caught wiping my butt while some guy is climbing over my wall…

    "I'd be a dumbass if i didn't plan for EVERY contingency"

    #31407
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    TheyCallMeMoose
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    cmon guys i know im a young guy but im not an idiot. the two posts about the attempted burglary and this are totally unrelated… i read an article about it and i figured id pursue it further. burglary is a whole different thing than what im talking about here. i cant call 911 and say hey these guys want my preps, so i better figure out some ways to stop them myself

    "I'd be a dumbass if i didn't plan for EVERY contingency"

    #31426
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    Brulen
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    Dog appear to be the best booby trap ever invented if you ask the navy seals.

    #31438
    Malgus
    Malgus
    Survivalist
    member8

    @ Moose,

    I’ve thought long and hard about this subject. And, I will pay you the favor of being blunt – hopefully, not at the cost of your enthusiasm. I don’t want to squash that, but you deserve a straight answer.

    I know you want to protect you and yours. That is a worthy cause. But if I sit here and tell you a step-by-step process to build devices, and something goes wrong, then I’m on the hot seat. I’m sympathetic, but I’m not going to risk anything this close to Game Day.

    That said, there is nothing stopping you from doing research on your own. You cannot rely on only one or two things you try to keep working. And one or two puny booby traps won’t do sh*t.

    You have to have what is called a “defense in depth”. Additionally, you cannot have a “fortress” mentality. I have said it before and I will say it again, specifically for your benefit – everyone who has ever adopted the fortress mentality and tried to withstand a siege, has lost.

    Everyone.

    Yes, some lasted longer than others. But, in the end, they all went down. Even the Rhodesian farmers – who had organization, food, water, medicines and were by all accounts armed to the teeth with military grade hardware eventually went down in the end. Even the walls of Constantinople fell. It took a thousand years, but even they fell, in the end.

    If you want to dissuade Orcs from taking what’s yours – and worse – you will have to tribe up. Get your folks on board, talk to like-minded folks and form a community defense and support group. A group size can be anywhere between a dozen or two to about 150. Don’t try this “strong man vs. the world” thing… it makes for a good book, and a good movie, but in reality, it’s crap.

    It’s not a matter of skill or resources or even wanting it more than the other guy… it’s about numbers. No matter how good a guy is, no matter how many bullets he has or what kind of Jedi mojo he has going on, one Hero cannot stand against swarms of mediocres…. the more numbers you have in your group, the more skills you have access to without having to learn everything yourself. The more hands you have, the more the work load can be spread out. And yes, the more bodies you have, the more fingers to pull more triggers…

    Defense in depth. Start with using nature against your adversaries. The terrain of the land can be exploited against them. So can vegetation. If there are areas where you cannot see all the time, then plant stuff like Acacia bushes. That stuff is so nasty, not even African lions want to fool with it.. seriously.

    Man made obstacles can be used to halt vehicle traffic or foot traffic or both. Some are bullet transparent, like the Frisian Horse – which is an obstacle for people, but does not offer them any cover. Some are smaller, like caltrops. Some can be combined together, like tanglefoot and barbed steel spikes set in the ground. Some are designed to break the treads of tanks. You have to do research and read, read, read... and then read some more.

    Booby traps would be good to place in areas where you cannot see or where an aggressor would likely take up position. You can even use vegetation to encourage them to take up that position, then set one to go off when they do. It’s a mind game.

    Some booby traps are historically famous – like the barbed steel spikes I mentioned earlier. Julius Cesar used them to good effect against the Gauls. It looks like a fish-hook that got straightened out – a barbed steel spike, only about 8 to 10 inches long. The other end is driven into a block of wood, and then the wood block is buried with the spike sticking up. If done in tall grass, anyone going through that area will have a bad time. Some are more recent, like the NVA’s tiger traps. Simple. Dig a hole about 2 feet deep – some were deeper – and however wide you want. Fill the bottom of the hole with spikes, then camouflage the hole. Someone stepping on it will fall in and get spiked, at least in the foot. The NVA used to smear excrement on the spikes to encourage sepsis and gangrene.

    Booby traps can be active or passive, mechanical, spring loaded, simple or complex. There are no rules when it comes to them, which is why they’re so stinking dangerous. And, unless you keep a map of what you set and where they are, anyone – good, bad or otherwise – can blunder into it. Anti-personnel mines are a form of booby trap. One of the things I adopted was a bear deterrent method I saw on Discovery Channel – a thick piece of plywood, at least a couple feet by a couple feet, has hundreds of drywall screws driven through it to form a bed of spikes. These are placed in front of cabin doors to deter bears and such. But, placed on the inside of a house under windows, etc, well, that would make life very interesting for an Orc…

    While you are researching whatever it is you are going to research, I want you to keep saying to yourself …

    INFINITE MONKEYS

    You don’t have a copyright on any of this information.. which means anyone else is just as capable as studying what you are studying. They could just as easily know what you know.

    Also, given the Infinite Monkeys Theory (I made that up, by the way) it means that given enough people, sooner or later someone will figure out a way to defeat your defenses… often, it’s the simplest things that will defeat you. Military grade razor wire can be defeated with a hunk of old carpet. Just throw it over the razor wire and cross. Same for broken glass set in the top of a wall. Toss it over the glass and cross in safety. Frisian Horses can be burned – unless made of steel, which is expensive. Barbed wire can be cut. Worse comes to worse, the Orcs take a chain and a hook and a truck and just drag away your defenses…

    Which is why you have to keep evolving your methods. Nobody can tell you how to do that. That’s the bad news. The good news is that with a little imagination, you can keep coming up with things that will confound the Orcs… at least temporarily…

    And, expect them to steal your ideas. Once you make something effective, they will copy it.

    You can start learning by going over to Amazon and typing into the search engine “Mantraps and booby traps”. Then do a search for “historical anti-personnel devices” or a variation thereof… don’t forget to look at the “suggested” categories as well… one thing will lead you to another and another… and I’m betting you’ll have your hands full within about an hour.

    When you run out of stuff there, then go to another search engine – Yahoo, etc – and do the same searches there. Sometimes they list books that Amazon doesn’t have.. some are public record and available for download for free..

    Your only limit is your imagination. Learn from history and combine ideas. Use scavenged things as building blocks for devices… mousetraps and springs are famous starting places…

    Good luck…

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #31439
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    TheyCallMeMoose
    Prepper
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    thank you for the input Malgus
    im not plainning to withstand some kind of seige, for i already knew that eventually with enough willpower, they will get in. if i can slow them down enough for us to grab our stuff and get out, then thats all i can ask for. i appreciate the suggestions very much.

    "I'd be a dumbass if i didn't plan for EVERY contingency"

    #31441
    Frozenthunderbolt
    Frozenthunderbolt
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    member4

    Ragnar benson + Google

    #31442
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
    Survivalist
    member10

    After malgus’s post, there’s little to add.

    Ragnar Benson is a good read in general, but also look up the Death Wish 3 movie, as well as Alaskan bear defenses when they seal their cabins in the off season.

    #31444
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    Brulen
    Survivalist
    member9

    On the subject of booby traps, I would think Paladin Press would have lots, along with how to get revenge on your ex wife, be a merc and make ricin from scratch. Really an amazing amount of info for the prospective freedom fighter. This stuff must be required reading for all the movie makers today who do crime shows and spy movies. Read it and outwit the grim reaper, if you can.

    #31450
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    MountainBiker
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    Malgus mentioned the acacia bush. I’m not familiar with that plant but I can suggest the rugusa rose for fence lines or under windows. They are impenetrable and will shred your skin if you try. As an added bonus you can make tea with the rose hips, they are very fragrant and rather attractive when in bloom. Perhaps the best part is they will grow just about anywhere. I had some at my last house and would cut them to the ground every few years when they started getting a little ratty looking and they’d quickly regenerate into lush new bushes in a single season. They’ll even grow in sand at the beach. Up on the Gaspe Peninsula of Quebec, a truly wild frigid terrain where mountains abruptly descend into the ocean, the only shrub you’ll find around homes are rugosa roses because it apparently is the only shrub that survives the climate. They will also get as big as you’ll let them via sending off runners that new shoots come up from.

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