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  • #46122
    chester
    chester
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    In SHTF world may be a bit of ‘wild wild west’ out there. In USA everyone will have lots of serious weapons.

    ‘How the police duty belt went from Officer Friendly to Mad Max in 30 short years’

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/12/11/how-the-police-duty-belt-went-from-officer-friendly-to-mad-max-in-30-short-years/

    #46129
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    As an old saying goes, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. We in the US do not want to be in the position recently described in two letters (from Sweden and Brazil) in response to Selco’s article on terror and the outlook for 2016. A well-armed society is a polite society – as evidenced by the statistics in high legal gun ownership areas of the country.

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #46147
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Too much crap on your hip , was not designed for that . It affects your ability to run with everything on your hips , instead of distributed all over . They dont need most of it on a daily basis . If your going to carry that much gear , then the various military rigs are the only functional way to go , but then again , I’m against that kind of thing also for police . Duty belt was fine when all they had was a pistol , hand cuffs , and a night stick .

    #46174
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
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    Really?
    Pistol, handcuffs and a night stick.

    So much for less lethal means.
    Pepper spray, tasers, both brought about to reduce injury to suspects. But hey, beating them works. Get ready for more Rodney King jokes.

    Radios and cell phones, calling for ambulances when help is needed, generally considered a good idea.

    Knives, for cutting stuck seat belts and vehicle seats after crashes, but hey one could wait for the firemen, if they maybe have a knife under all that garbage.

    Flashlights? Nah who would need a light with them anyways.

    Unless you’ve done the job, you have no clue what ‘needs’ to be on the duty belt.
    You wouldn’t try to tell a mechanic what tools he doesn’t need.
    You wouldn’t try to tell a surgeon what instruments he doesn’t need.
    But everyone seems to want to tell the cops what tools they need.

    #46176
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Yes Really ! thats all the cops had for decades , the gun hardly ever came out of the holster then , except for target practice , the night stick ? yes , preferred over the gun for many years , they actually knew how to use one . Thats all they needed , If you know HOW to use your equipment , thats all they needed . A good whack in the side of the leg , hip , or shoulder was enough to make most violent perps slow down enough to be cuffed , it also had a longer reach than a perps knife . A night stick is very much less than leathal if you know what your doing . What tools they need ………well that depends on what they plan to do , are they going to fight ISIS in Syria ? then YES they NEED all the tactical military crap ……….are they trying to move an unarmed old homeless guy out of the park ? , then YES , they need two guys to pepper spray him , with a third shooting him with a taser , while two more stand by with guns ready to shoot him IF he “resists” . Then YES they NEED all of that for the general public ……I agree . That opens another can of political worms , allow the people to carry knives or holster a pistol , then they wont HAVE TO cut that strap or deal with that perp . Pay them more and train them better . If you know your abilities and are confident , you dont feel threatened , and dont feel the need for 8 guys as back up . Its because they dont have skills , that they feel threatened , because their options are limited ……so they reach for the pistol . Its unconstitutional , but it wouldnt hurt our society as a whole if we had compulsory military service , a lot of the social ills they have to deal with would go away in the long run . Then we would understand that we are solely responsible for our own protection ….hence become more self reliant …………and stop expecting them to solve every dispute or calm every fear . When the people are empowered , its better for both them and us .

    #46177
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
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    All the military had for hundreds of years were muzzle loaders, are they still all they need?
    TRS-80’s were all the rage, are they all programmers need?

    Shall we saddle all the EMTs with Model A trucks converted to ambulances?

    Tech changes, needs change.

    Hmm beat skel with nightstick and risk Hepatitis and HIV from blood transfer or just spray or tase them?

    Hmm beat skel risking their death from a blood clot or spray/tase them???

    Again until you’ve done the job, you have no clue what is needed.

    Oh cutting that strap? That was in a rollover traffic accident.
    But who needs a knife anyways.

    #46179
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Been in roll overs myself , always had a knife on me ( legal or not ) . Never had to cut a strap , had to kick out a window ……….either way , male or female , you need to carry something , dont rely on others . People need to realize that life is life , there are going to be situations where its damned if you do , and damned if you dont . It is possible to be in a situation where you are just plain f%cked , with now way out . No matter what gear you have or what you think you know …its possible . God knows how much time is on our clock , and when its your time , its your time …………..not 1 min. before , not 1 min. after .
    Fatalistic , but its true . Stonewall Jackson was once asked by one of his officers how he could be so brave in battle and show no fear . He said that it was because god had destined what time was his time , and he need not fear danger before that time ……..he had no control over it , so he didnt worry about it , concentrating on the job at hand . Its a job , its not for everybody , I couldnt do it because I have too bad a temper , and dont like people as it is .

    #46181
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    74
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    rnews

    I thought the article was BS. What cops wear is a natural progression of technology. The only thing lethal is a pistol, same device cops have always used. What cops carry on their belt is never an issue, it’s what’s in their head that counts.

    #46183
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
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    The article is BS, written for libtards by libtards.

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