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  • #22570
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    tweva
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    rreallife

    I know 74 – just messing with you:)

    #22574
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    Amanda11
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    Give me SOME credit here, 74. ;-) If I thought this was a concern, the thought wouldn’t have entered my mind. In Michigan, the State owns most of the land running along roads, expressways, etc. This can be as small as a 2-3′ extension past a sidewalk (which REALLY irritates homeowners because in most cases they have to mow it as well as their own property), or as big as the acres of wild fields connecting to my property (as well as the property of my neighbors). No one is going to even question it. Lol, that’s probably one of my best secret weapons: I look like the typical suburban housewife in an affluent community. Little old me? You must be mistaken, officer. And to be honest I’d be shocked if anyone outside the Extension Office even knew what a potato plant looked like around here. Cops are only interested in pulling over speeders to up their revenue numbers, much to the annoyance of my hubby and his lead foot.

    #22576
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    74
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    rnews

    Amanda, I have complete faith in you. I’m only trying to pass along some of the things I have learned along the way. Whenever you take risk expect some failures.

    Never forget Murphy’s Law. If it can go wrong it WILL.

    #22577
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    74
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    rnews

    Miss twee I know u r.

    #22702
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    Novus Ordo
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    rprepper

    Tweva – just the post I needed from you! I “tried” potatoes earlier this year, didn’t know better and used the store bought ones, got plants to grow from all of them, but used straight “garden soil” and watered too much and the pots got really heavy. I only got two potatoes from probably 10 plants (one per pot) and they were smaller than “baby” size. Soooo, 1) get organic or seed potatoes, 2) lighten up the soil, 3) water lightly, 4) fuhgetaboutit! (vice paying attention daily). Will try again when it gets cooler – next month. Thanks again! BTW, all of my pepper plants are putting out lots of non-crossed types as they are supposed to since I separated all the differing plants – owe it all to you!

    Amanda – don’t let 74 scare you; for sure no helicopters will be overhead – but might want to keep an eye out for drones….just don’t carry your 12 gauge on state land. Sorry Tweva, couldn’t resist! ;)

    Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
    - Thomas Paine

    #25906
    Leopard
    Leopard
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    Growing your own Potatoes
    August 20, 2010 – Posted by SelfSus
    On Tuesday I went to see my friendly seed potato supplier to pick up the balance of a shipment that was short delivered. In chatting to Hennie it was clear that he was harassed. I asked him what the problem was and his simple answer was that he has no potatoes and farmers are fighting with him because he has no stock.

    A bit later after he had vented his spleen he explained exactly what the problem was. There have been a number of crop failures throughout the country, some due to disease , others like in the north due to frost in areas where frost does not occur and this has lead to a sharp jump in the market price of potatoes.

    Being a tad naive I wondered why that would hurt him, and said as much. Hennie looked at me with that look reserved for dolts, and slowly explained that he has contract growers that supply him with seed potatoes. If the market price exceeds what he contracted for, the farmers will exclude a portion or their entire crop from certification and sell them to the market for the higher price.

    On Tuesday of this week he had 8000 bags and orders for 13 000 with no new potatoes coming in and more than a handful of irate farmers. The net effect of this is that we are literally eating our seed and this could have a knock on effect for the next year or two until the balance in potato supply and demand is restored.

    So what is one to do? Simple, plan to grow your own. We have just managed to get a small shipment in of seed potatoes. (I begged Hennie for a few extra bags) and we will also be planning a late season supply so that you can plant two crops this year.

    Below is some info on how and what to do to get the best out of your potato planting.

    If your seed potatoes are slightly wrinkled when you get them don’t worry, just dump the whole lot into water overnight and they will quickly fill out. Your then have two options to plant them out.

    The first is the direct method.

    Basically take your seed potatoes as is and plant them directly into your prepared site. The sprouting will be uneven and you can enjoy your harvest from the plants that mature first while waiting for the other plants to catch up.

    The second is the ‘Chitting’ process.

    1) Lay the potatoes in a box or crate in bright light. Not direct sunlight. (The shade under a tree would be perfect)

    2) You can cover them with some gardening hessian to help keep the moisture in.

    3) Sprinkle water over the potatoes at least once a day. The idea here is to get the potatoes to ‘chit’ or turn green.

    4) Once the potatoes have started to sprout eyes you can then plant them into your beds. This process will give an even maturing on all of your plants thus enabling you to harvest the all at once.

    Note: It is not essential that all tubers have eyes when planted, however it will ensure that you get the fastest growth from your plants.

    In either case above the following care practices are used.

    Plant the potatoes between 50 and 100mm deep in soil, do not plant them directly onto fresh manure, however soil enriched with well rotted compost is best. Be careful when planting the tubers as the eyes (if they have formed) are easily knocked off. Planting distance is 400mm to about 600mm depending on the size tubers you are looking for.

    As growth commences, (approx 2-3 weeks from planting) be careful with walking on or working in the soil near the tubers as the growth points are very easily snapped by the lightest pressure. Once the stems start to emerge, slowly bank up the soil around the plant to encourage the development of new tubers. Without ‘hilling’ the plants your will greatly reduce the amount of potatoes that your will harvest.

    Watering your potatoes is best done with a hose directly onto the soil. A number of points must be kept in mind here. 1) Potatoes do not have extensive root systems so frequent watering is essential. 2) Try to keep water off the leaves as a very humid environment is the perfect habitat for fungal diseases. 3) the most important part of the watering cycle is once the flowers start to show, this is when the tubers are busy growing, any water stress from this point will decrease your harvest. 4) Try to water in the mornings as evening watering will leave moisture on the plants, encouraging fungal infections and slugs/snails.

    Harvesting. This is the best part. Once the leaves start to turn yellow, slowly cut back on the watering to encourage the potatoes to mature. You can now start sneaking your hand under the soil to pick baby potatoes for your dinner. Don’t be too greedy at this point as you want some to mature. Once the plants have died back completely your can do a couple of things. 1) Just leave them in to soil, as long as you are not expecting rain then they will keep for months like this. 2) harvest the whole lot and store them. Don’t wash them before storage. Best storage is in a cool dark place, with dry straw or dry grass packed between the layers. DO NOT use old potatoes bags for storage, you will lose the lot. As those bags often have disease residues in them.

    For those of you that want to try the tyre stack method, here is a link that you can use to assist you as I have no experience with this method.

    Finally don’t plant potatoes near tomatoes, they are incompatible crops and each will disadvantage the other. Your potatoes will be glassy and your tomatoes will not produce a proper harvest.
    (http://www.selfsustainable.co.za/growing-your-own-potatoes/)

    #25911
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    freedom
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    rnews

    Leopard, Thank you for all the information. I didn’t know the problem with tomatoes close to potatoes.

    #25914
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    MountainBiker
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    member10

    Thanks Leopard. Something I am thinking of trying next year is to plant some whole potatoes rather than cutting them up. I read that you can get a lot more yield from a single plant that way. Doing little experiments with my gardening and preserving efforts is part of the fun for me.

    #25918
    Leopard
    Leopard
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    member8

    I love my potatoes. On this side of the world it is getting warmer and it is time to plant. I’ve got some plants still growing strong from last year. Simply going to cover them with soil. I wait for my potatoes to sprout first and cut them in two parts just before putting them in the soil. spouting side facing up. (I do not think you need to water as often as we do, because we get less rain even in summer.)

    Tweva – on rogue potatoes. I’ve even tossed some old potatoes next to my compost heap, without planting them and they grew.

    #25919
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    MountainBiker
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    member10

    In readying the last house we had to put it on the market I ripped up my garden which was adjacent to my deck and put in new shrubs and lawn. Gardens like I had detract rather than add to the value of the home. I did this the autumn before listing the house in the spring. Lo and behold but what did I see coming up through the bark mulch around some shrubs I planted but potatoes from ones I missed digging up the prior autumn. I had to pull them up as if they were weeds.

    #25939
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    tweva
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    rreallife

    What more can be said about my favorite,,,the ;lowly’ potati? I count myself most fortunate that they choose to appear, by their own volition,….just about everywhere here these days. Musta given away 45 sacks each 5lbsor more in last several weeks. Gotta luv ‘em

    #25943
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    MountainBiker
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    member10

    I like to make mashed potatoes with freshly dug potatoes. It is always the best mashed potatoes of the year.

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