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  • #12065
    wildartist
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>freedom wrote:</div>
    wildartist I think that they are trying to do the same to Nevada.

    Freedom, they are trying to do it in many places.  While we lived in Idaho, the influx from California drove land and house prices through the roof.  That’s one reason we moved to Oklahoma.  We still pay over $1100 per year here in real estate taxes, on a tiny lot and older home in a poor run-down neighborhood.  That’s almost $100 per month or we lose our home… while the people on welfare pay no taxes.  Grrrr….

    That was one great thing about Alaska–no real estate taxes if you were lucky enough to live outside a village or organized borough (they are annexing everything around them however).  (And private land is hard to find.)

    Taxes, regulations, judge’s rulings that “interpret” our Constitution, a pres that writes “executive orders” circumventing our elected representatives…all ways of stealing our God-given rights and freedoms.  Oppressing us into slavery.  Give me liberty or give me death!  (Patrick Henry)

    #12067
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    freedom
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    Matt76, Agree that this started many years ago, and was very well planned to turn this Country into what many would call Communism, I do not call it that. The real name and end goal is Dictatorship! Total control of the people. The plan has been to pass many laws that are unconstitutional for as long as the people let them so they can take over, control everything.

    They started in the schools and Universities. They knew that many would not like it but they would have total control of the schools and teach our children. History would be changed there and the constitution would not be in there class rooms & God would not be there too!

    This plan has been going on for a long time.

    #12073
    Malgus
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    74, free, wild, and the rest of y’all..

    I guess my pessimism got the best of me. But in my defense, I did say the following:

    Yes, there are patriots, true “Americans” amongst their ranks, but I’ve pretty much written off everything from the Ohio River on up… I’ve lived up there before for a blessedly short time. But long enough to realize I was right all along.

    I ain’t backing down from that. Do I lump you all in with the socialists and the douchebags? Of course not. There are folks who are either patriots, got their head screwed on correctly or salvageable who live there, but come on… you all know as well as I do that Commiefornia and New England are lost. So are other places, like Barackistan (Chicago), Detoilet, etc. For me to state what everyone else is thinkin’ isn’t “stereotyping”… and I saw what happened to Seattle and Denver firsthand.

    Have I been the butt of ridicule from Yankees? Yep. More often than not. Met some cool folks up North, but not enough to convince me that the majority aren’t walking around with the mindset of those who ridiculed me.

    Sorry if I stepped on any of y’alls toes, but it’s how I feel. I’d rather y’all be pissed at me for an honest unflinching opinion than for me to be a phony…

    Did I stereotype? Erm… no. Correction… I did stereotype… I’m gonna have to own that. But someone is gonna have to explain to me where I’m wrong… .

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #12080
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    Tsar Alexander
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    I would rather see America retain some sort of status as a world power–a radical break up with every little region for it’s self would make it easy to exploit America from the outside. That being said, some regions really should be released at this point.

    I also wonder what will happen to  places like New York or Philadelphia, which are highly diverse, but are not near a border area (like Los Angeles is).

    And Malgus, I have visited Seattle many times, since I live relatively near by to it–it’s full of Hipsters now….

    #12081
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    @ Selco:

    I had some relatives who did some stints in the fringes of the USSR. When nationalist violence erupted, one of them commented that national hatred was covered up by cheap slogans about democracy meant for an impressionable west.

    As for the powers that be wanting to exploit differences–I could believe that, though if you look at the Soviet central response to crises at the fringe, you will find that there was more incompetence on the part of Gorbachev and others, rather than some sort of coherent attempt to divide and conquer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumgait_pogrom

    This issue was not even brought up in a meeting until half way in or so. That should show that, as far as central governments are concerned, it is not always (at least in the case of Moscow’s government) a coherent plan to divide and rule.

     

    #12089
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    Melgus,

    Just drop it, we don’t really care if your a redneck :)

    #12090
    Tolik
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    THey had an interview with Gorbachev years later , he said that he was arrested and taken to a nice place , but still under arrest , he had an interesting comment about Russia in general as he was worried about what they were going to do to him at that time  ” In a country as big as ours , things can take a long time to get moving …..but once they do , its almost impossible to stop ” .

    He was talking politically , but it seems true of other things as well there . in WW1 , once mobilization started , even the Tsar couldnt stop it ( he tried to , in the ” Willie / Nikki telegrams ) . In WW2 , once the Russian Steamroller got moving again , it literally rolled over the Germans in sheer numbers .

    #12093
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    Wild,

    Real estate taxes are to make sure you cannot own your home. As in another thread; the government can take your house if you owe them $6.30. How can anyone say they own a house if it can be taken away for a 6 dollar debt.

    We are renters under an allusion of property rights that don’t exist.

    #12116
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    1974, I had an Cuban accountant years ago and he told me that Castro was stupid because he though that he had the best system of communism. I asked him why! Well he said the best communist system in the world is here! I said What! Then he went on to tell me why, he said here they tax you on what you make, then they tax you when you buy something again, and they have hidden taxes too like the gas tax that no one knows they are paying. Then they tax you for life on your properties and if you do not pay they can take it from you.

    If you do not pay income tax the put you in jail. They make you think you are free so you make more money investing so they can tax you again.

    Then he ended by saying Castro is only a dictator that makes money from taking it but his people do not product money for him to tax and keep taxes for life.

    I am always thinking about what he said to me 15 years ago. We are made to believe that we own things but all we are is renters that pay taxes for the rest of our life.

     

    #12117
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    tweva
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    rreallife

    Personally, I think that whomever runs the world and Mother Nature have their own plans…and they will remind this nation and the world what infinitesimal specs we humans are; and, if we are fortunate enough, give us one last chance to learn to get a long with each other. I think Mother Nature and God’s plan for this planet are, for the most part, discounted by most ‘preppers’. (and I am not talking about ‘global warming’). The earth is a living thing/planet and has it’s own destiny.

    I am not so pessimistic as you all seem to be. Nor, do I feel separate from my fellow Americans as Malgus does. I have lived all over the country and have found people I identify with wherever I go. Much shall depend on the next President and what happens with the Senate races for the near term. But should God and Mother Nature choose to continue to escalate the natural calamities across this nation (and the world) we might yet learn/or relearn (as the case may be) what stuff we are made of. We’ll see.

    You can dissect, comment, rail all one wants but I never hear of anyone ever stepping up and stepping forward with concrete plans much less the leadership to rally folks together and DO something about it. It’s easy to just blame ‘them’ and the PTB. My 2 cents that are worth a penny

    #12119
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    tweva, The next election is very important in Nov. It can slow thing down and give us more time and the next President if it is the right person can fix this country but there is little time. They have done a lot of damage to the Country that will take many years to fix.

    Only God knows were we are headed to.

    #12134
    Selco
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    I had some relatives who did some stints in the fringes of the USSR. When nationalist violence erupted, one of them commented that national hatred was covered up by cheap slogans about democracy meant for an impressionable west.

    Of course Tsar, I experienced exactly the same things. Everything was “in the name of the democracy” , killings were for example in the name of the “cause” etc.

    Bad guys usually do not look like the bad guys, and actually good guys can be worse then bad guys in the times of great changes and chaos.

    When bad times come, I ll simply try to control my “small circle”, family, friends, everything else is one huge storm, outside of our control.

    Great events in history are usually understandable decades after they happen, and very often real truth is hidden forever.

    #12161
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    @Selco

    That seems to be the truth. For instance, many people think America caused the USSR to collapse and thus “win” the cold war, even though the USSR was being destroyed more from the inside.

    Sorry if I was earlier sounding like I was trying to lecture you,but I still stand by my statement about how authorities react in a collapse may not be the same as you dealt with in the former Yugoslavia.

    At any rate, it seems your idea about concerning yourself only with immediate issues is best– I know for sure that many people in the former USSR did this in the 1990s.

    Russia at least “bounced back” though. It seems no such thing ever happened in Bosnia.

    #12191
    Selco
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    Sure Tsar, no need to be sorry about anything, I am here for reading other opinions too.

    That seems to be the truth. For instance, many people think America caused the USSR to collapse and thus “win” the cold war, even though the USSR was being destroyed more from the inside.

    Some people think that too about falling of former Yugoslavia, and it was same, fall started much before with very bad economic solutions. Other things complicated everything and bring to culmination.

    #12214
    Tolik
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    Absolutely the USSR was destroyed from the inside , after Stalins death , they had a few leaders that would have been very good for the country with reforms , but were stopped cold by all the old school hard liners .

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