June 7, 2015 at 5:48 pm #41562
Smoke screens could be a useful tool to provide cover for escape in some situations . The biggest problem with most smoke grenades on the market is the possibility of fire from them . I found a smoker that is “cold ” burn . They make many different colors including plain white smoke , they also come in two types . The ” burst ” version is for speedy cloaking , and it burns out of both ends of the bomb at the same time . The other is a normal grenade that only burns out of one end , but provides more smoke and burns longer than the burst style . They are all ring pull , no lighting needed . I will test them out and update , they look promising .June 7, 2015 at 9:22 pm #41570
Interesting, let me know how it works out.June 7, 2015 at 10:24 pm #41572
I can see how they would be very useful in an urban area , because with the cover of buildings , they would linger like a fart in a library . Outdoors , would depend on the amount of wind , tree density , etc . I just watch one on the black version , very strong smoke , almost looked like burning tires .June 7, 2015 at 10:28 pm #41573
I live in an area were there are many homes and trees but the city has a small downtown area too. I can see a use for these in a SHTF time.June 7, 2015 at 10:49 pm #41576
They have an OC version?June 7, 2015 at 11:18 pm #41577
They might , who knows .June 7, 2015 at 11:58 pm #41579
Yes the military have the OC version but not the gangs and criminals that may go wild in the cities. So it maybe helpful if you need to get out of an area.June 8, 2015 at 12:42 am #41583
I ordered one of all three versions to test , I found out they make a ‘fat boy ‘ also , its called the EG-18 , supposed to pump out a lot of smoke and burn for quite awhile . I orderd all in green , mostly because I will be in a heavily wooded state soon , and that it looked like it stayed foggy and impaired vision longer than some of the other colors , one guy did not recommend the red as he thought it was too thin .June 8, 2015 at 1:50 am #41591
Yes Tolik the green looks like the best option. I went to the website and did see the EG-18.June 8, 2015 at 4:56 pm #41607
I have a little experience from playing big paintball games where these are thrown. Indoors they are indeed very effective. Outdoors, obviously not as much. In wooded areas they are decent.
The greens and dark smoke worked best from what I have seen. Reds, blues, and yellows didn’t work so well.June 9, 2015 at 12:21 am #41636
THanks for the input , cant wait to test them out .June 9, 2015 at 9:43 am #41663
They look promising. It’s actually a plus that they are marketed for use for paint ball as opposed to more overtly tactical applications because that gives you a very reasonable explanation for owning them. I think I would lean toward the EG-18 because of the volume for most outdoor applications, but the little ones look like they would be a good alternative to the Orion scratch-cap signal smokes (in orange) for emergency signaling.
I ran a class A magazine for a while and am instructor certified with the M201A1-series fuzed smoke munitions and ton of other ordnance and I’m curious to see what they are using for a fuze.
It used to be that John Q. Public could own all kinds of less-lethal ordnance, with some restrictions (under 7 grams of propellant, no anti-personnel rounds larger than .50 cal or 12 gauge, etc) .but since the “Un-Patriot Act”-fueled power grab and the current admin encouraging agencies to interpret the law any way that suits them, those fuzes are now “destructive devices” so they are thrown in with anything sub-nuclear.
All it’s going to due is kill a bunch of rednecks when they blow stuff up with more dangerous fuzes. Most of that stuff is of pretty limited practicality in peacetime for most folks since you’d have a heck of time explaining to most judges how it was reasonable for you to use a stun munition or smoke grenade in a self-defense scenario … but that doesn’t stop them from being fun and effective.
Where did you order from? Looks like if you order them in the states you get the $30/box HAZMAT fee, So I’d order a bunch. Looks like it could fill a niche for sure. I like the bursting smokes for some applications, but these look great. Thanks for the info. : )June 9, 2015 at 9:09 pm #41698
This is interesting to see someone post on this subject. I have been toying around with the idea of getting a 37mm grenade launcher so that I can shoot smoke grenades for cover and concealment reasons in addition to getting some parachute illumination flares.
When I was in the military we used smoke for many different reasons above cover/concealment. Signaling for shift of fire, signaling to incoming groups (I am tossing smoke: Copy, I see the _____ color smoke: Copy, ______ color smoke.), etc. Even if I had to shoot out 3 or 4 to match the volume of military grenades it would be worth it if they were needed.
http://ageofdecadence.comJune 10, 2015 at 12:21 am #41705
Cache , get them on ebay ……….no hazmat fee . ebay is good for getting around certain things . I order all kinds of things from foreign sellers as well , been my experience , that Germany and Germans are by far the best people to deal with .June 10, 2015 at 2:21 am #41714
Back in the late 80’s, when I was stationed out at Ft. Lewis (when the old 9th ID was still around and Lewis hadn’t combined with the AFB) some knucklehead chucked a white smoke munition out the window of his vehicle on the I-5 just south of Seattle….
The traffic jam was epic.
Later, in 1995, yet a different knucklehead biffed another smoke munition in the 3rd floor latrine of our barracks down in Panama… in an enclosed space, all that smoke is bad news. Buddy of mine – who used to be a volunteer firefighter prior to enlisting – ran into the building thinking it was on fire in an effort to save people.
He ended up breathing that crap and suffered lingering issues with his lungs for years afterwards…
Just have a care when you’re using this stuff… no idea what they put in their smoke munitions…
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