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  • #46205
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    Corvus
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    Have you heard/read about the young AA woman in Las Vegas who used her car to run 20 plus people over while appearing “stoic” while running the sidewalks of the strip? She claimed she couldn’t find a place to get some sleep in various parking lots. So the answer is where’s there ” three hots and a cot?” Jail. People get out my way–her child was in the back seat while mama did some damage to the society that drove her crazy.
    Was she on drugs is my first question, second question will she ever be permitted to drive again? Last question, does Nevada have the death penalty? Here’s just one more reason why I try to stay away from crowds.

    #46215
    Whirlibird
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    We shall see, there are enough programs out there, she shouldn’t have had to look far for assistance. Hotel rooms are available even.

    Sometimes it’s just a case of dumbarse rather than anything else.

    #46219
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    What happened in Las Vegas was really strange. There is surely more to the story that hasn’t come out yet. We just don’t know what it is. Whirli, yes there are programs available for the homeless but if you have mental illness who knows what she was thinking.

    The “3 hots and a cot” possibility occurred to me concerning the local drive-by shooting we had last weekend. No explanation has been forthcoming yet. The victim was totally random. There was just one shot fired. All that has come out is that the guy was unemployed and that he had the location of the police dept programmed into his GPS. Though he was a 5 hour drive from home he did not have a suitcase or anything with him that travelers would have. He fired the shot and 7 minutes later turned himself in at the police station. It seems it was all planned.

    #46229
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    Very, very strange.

    A former resident of Portland, Oregon, Holloway worked for the Forest Service through a program designed to help at-risk youth. Holloway was touted as a case study in resilience, even receiving a role model award in 2012.

    Speaking in a video about her experience, she said she “beat the odds” by becoming the first person in her immediate family to graduate high school.

    Portland Opportunities Industrialization Center said in a statement, “It’s hard to believe that Lakeisha did this, she was such a great kid while she was a part of our program.”

    Holloway’s cousin Lashay Hardaway said Holloway would never do something like this on purpose.

    “None of it made any sense. It just didn’t add up to who she is,” Hardaway said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/lakeisha-holloway-driver-accused-deadly-vegas-crash-court/story?id=35922104

    The story also said she’d been trying to find places to sleep in her car, but security people kept running her off. Something about that just seems wrong. Yes, properties need to keep some order and not have paying customers scared away, but at the same time, I think of a 24 y/o and her 3 year old daughter just trying to get some sleep, and the phrase “no room at the inn” – or even the parking lot. There’s just something about that that feels so very sad. I almost hope there is a drug explanation or something sinister, because if she was just (no pun intended) driven over the edge with stress, that’s just very tragic. The little pieces of background provided in the “news” story seem to suggest she had been headed in “recovery mode” from a very bad childhood. It would be tragic if she simply could not connect (or be helped to connect) with appropriate resources to continue that upward trajectory.

    Elsewhere it said that she told police she did remember a body bouncing off her windshield and breaking it. Her demeanor and behavior just don’t make sense, if she wasn’t under any substance influence. I agree – there surely must be far more to this story – a true human tragedy on multiple levels (the victims and their families, as well as the offender, and her daughter. No winners here at all.

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #46234
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    L Tecolote
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    It is at least tragic. Though I’m sure that there are helpful folks and organizations somewhere there, of all the cities I’ve ever been in, Vegas is at the bottom of my list for places to look for sympathy or help. Since my first visit in 1959, when I was working for the California Division of Highways, and needed to cash my paycheck (Vegas was only 60 miles away, Berdoo was 180) I had the impression that the standard attitude there was, “If you ain’t a dollar bill, get out of my place.”

    But if I were in Vegas, and needed a place to catch a few Zs, I’d think Walmart not fancy-schmancy casino parking lot.

    Cry, "Treason!"

    #46238
    Tolik
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    Have to agree about Vegas being a good hearted town . Asking for help there , is like people in hell asking for ice water . When I lived out West , every time I saw a Nevada plate ………..my dirtbag alert went off . Nevada and New Mexico are the only two western states WORSE than Arizona lol .

    #46240
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    Tolik, I am always a keen observer of culture which I consider an important variable when contemplating SHTF matters. What do you think it is about the Southwest that makes folks not especially generous? I have been to AZ, NV, & NM maybe 5 times either as a tourist or for business but all those trips were quite a few years ago. To me Las Vegas being a city largely without history in combination with being a fantasy world results in it not having a sense of place. Lacking that, all that’s left is “me, here and now” and kind of an every man for himself attitude. When everyone is from somewhere else it takes a long time for a true sense of community to develop.

    #46241
    Whirlibird
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    Strange, last time I was in Vegas, it was oddly friendly. (Feb ’14)
    Everyone was helpful, except for a few tourists.

    Unlike parts of NM and AZ. There were pockets of ‘friendly’ but few and far between.

    #46244
    Tolik
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    MountainBiker ,
    Its pretty simple , they are transient states . Everybody is from somewhere else . You still get some decent people in the small rural towns , any of the cities ………forget it . Unlike where we are currently , where people by in large dont move around too much , and stay there for generations , the Southwest is too full of people from outside the state , always moving around , cant trust a drifter . Another factor is being too close to Mexico , Those people are prone to violence and crime , also in the case of Phoenix , too many blacks with the entitlement attitude sold by the liberals . NM are all a bunch of wanna be gang bangers , dirtbags all . The problem in AZ , is that one city has a greater population than the rest of the state combined , that means all the money stays there , they also get out voted on everything .

    #46246
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    Wow! Ho, ho ho, merry Christmas, happy new year, peace on earth and good will toward — just a few. ;)

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #46249
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    Corvus
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    All you Santas don’t drink and drive, let Mrs. Claus take the wheel, or Rudolph, but if his nose is too red forgit about it, better sleep in Walmart’s parking lot. BTW, did you read this: Man’s four stages of Santa Claus: First, you believe in Santa. Second, you find out who he really is, third, you get to play Santa, lastly, you look like Santa!
    May the elves get you the hugs you deserve, stay alert and don’t flirt with Johnny or Janney Law. the cuffs they put on ya are expensive.

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    #46251
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    Thanks for the insights Tolik. Any town can welcome and absorb a certain number of new people without losing its sense of community but it is inherent upon the newcomers to make themselves part of the community by getting involved and by respecting the local history and culture. When the majority are newcomers and/or if they don’t view it as where they plan to put down roots, then it can take a long time for a new “community” to arise. Where I grew up was a small town that transformed into a suburban community in the 60’s. It went from 5,000 people to 35,000 in 10 years. 100% of the farms were transformed into subdivisions. Corporate headquarter type facilities got built. Except for the old blue collar neighborhood that I lived in which was geographically distinct from the rest of town, any sense of community was lost. In my neighborhood kids like me had aunts/uncles/cousin/grandparents in the neighborhood and the people that weren’t related or sort of related (my cousins relatives from the other sides of their families) were my parent’s friends from when they were growing up or my grandparent’s friends. Fast forward a few decades and when it comes time for high school reunions, the attendees are very disproportionately from my neighborhood which was but a small fraction of the town’s population back in those days. The people from my neighborhood that I graduated with were the same people that I started kindergarten with. Most of the people in my high school class arrived sometimes during their middle or high school years and had no connection to the community except that’s where their parents happened to live at that point in their lives.

    #46252
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    All you Santas don’t drink and drive, let Mrs. Claus take the wheel, or Rudolph, but if his nose is too red forgit about it, better sleep in Walmart’s parking lot. BTW, did you read this: Man’s four stages of Santa Claus: First, you believe in Santa. Second, you find out who he really is, third, you get to play Santa, lastly, you look like Santa!
    May the elves get you the hugs you deserve, stay alert and don’t flirt with Johnny or Janney Law. the cuffs they put on ya are expensive.

    Good advice. Here in Vermont those electronic highway signs have been pushing the drinking & driving message with a play on Star Wars. “Drink and Drive?”, “Path to Darkside It Is” As for me, between today and Sunday I have 3 neighborhood gatherings to go to, the furthest being half a mile up the road so I won’t be going too far.

    #46255
    wildartist
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    A young woman here in Stillwater OK drove into the crowd watching our OK State Univ Homecoming Parade a few months ago–killed several, sent many more to the hospital, some still recovering if ever. A 2 year old dead, children with broken bodies for the rest of their lives, an ag professor and his wife dead. The driver claimed she was suicidal at the time. Of course the lawyers are claiming “unsound mind”. Some people in town were worried about Islamic terrorists but no one saw this coming. Even though this is a fairly small city (20K plus Univ students = 40K with many internationals) tragedy strikes. I shy away from crowds and stay alert…but you never know.

    BTW I was at home on the edge of town, wondering why all the chopper traffic overhead (Life Flights of victims to hospitals). Sounded strange and subconsciously ominous but I didn’t link it to tragedy on the level of reality. I must realize that the red flags my ‘gut’ raises could mean something serious. Cognitive dissonance on my part. Lesson learned.

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