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  • #40721
    Whirlibird
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    http://kjzz.org/content/135646/judge-rules-arizona-dreamers-eligible-state-college-tuition

    Well if I had ever considered sending my kids to AZ, that thought is over.

    #40728
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    And Hillary is now on record as saying she wants full citizenship for the illegals.

    Concerning Arizona, I’ve been there a couple times and absolutely love the desert beauty but between the arid conditions and the whole La Raza and Aztlan thing, the future looks pretty stark. Political correctness run amok and plain old demographics is going to cause a transformation of the Southwest into something many of us will not recognize as the US, and that is not going to serve the best interests of those immigrant communities. Just as kids growing up in Quebec increasingly have fewer prospects in the rest of Canada due to their inability to speak English, I see portions of the Southwest headed in the same direction. All that’s missing are the do-gooders institutionalizing it which will effectively make those immigrant communities perpetual 2nd class citizens and unable to function in much of the country. I wouldn’t want my kids going to school in AZ either out of fear they’d decide to stay there after graduation, and themselves become 2nd class citizens if they didn’t learn Spanish.

    I’m just an old unapologetic old fashioned assimilation rather than multiculturalism kind of guy. Everyone that chooses to live in America fully becomes Americans.

    #40729
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    namelus
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    If you want to see multicultural problems as you said look up to canada… it does not stop there, they re create problems they had at “home” by gaming system . An example as in elderly parents coming and getting pension from government healthcare free/reduced prescriptions. expensive surgeries some places street signs are in hindi, then english…

    this causes problems in cost for labeling as well as a permanent underclass as people cant leave the insular society because they only speak —— insert the blank. you can become a citizen and not speak english or french.

    you can live there and only speak mandarin. you can get a driver license test in multi languages. effectively making you unable to read a map or directions in the official languages. You get “citizens” who live in over seas places only use canada to pull them out when crap hits the fan but pay no taxes to canada.

    Immigration is a must for Canada to grow but it needs an overhaul to more melting pot than multi cultural. Immigration will never fix poor countries problem, only make it worse as we take their best. Mandatory competency in Language skills should be part of citizenship dont you think , or is it too much to ask someone to learn to communicate with the new world they are in?

    #40731
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    namelus, what is especially sad for Quebec is that they used to be more integrated into the rest of Canada. My grandmother was born in 1906 in a small village on the Gaspe Peninsula, a place that is remote even today. She grew up bilingual. I went to her village a few years ago and nobody speaks English there anymore. My grandmother was able to come to the US as a young woman and work because she had learned English in school as a kid. That’s not happening anymore.

    #40733
    Tolik
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    Look at Arizona’s gun laws vs. where you live . They have Constitutional carry ( no CC needed in the state ) , Castle Doctrine , and Stand your ground , gun registration is prohibited . Some commies in the state capital , but by in large , its still the wild west in many respects . Weather or not some bean dip , gets a lower tuition rate is not all that important , when compared to keeping the 2nd Amendment alive . Oh , and Governor Jan Brewer ………..she is about as Communist as Ronald Reagan , she met obama at the airport shaking a finger at him ………pissed off a lot of lefties . Not much in Arizona , only has two major cities , and most of the ardent granola eaters live in Tucson . The Mexican problem is severe , they are pretty much like Blacks are in other parts of the country , the victim mentality and wanting more rights than they are entitled to . Unfortunately , its the same federal government in charge of that area as it is in the rest of the country , and they kiss their butt .

    #40736
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    Tolik, where I live (Vermont) has never had any gun licensing at all. None. There are almost no gun laws in this State and our Constitution is more clearly worded in this regard than the US Constitution. It is only in recent years that a handful of other States have started following our lead and eliminating licensing. There are some restrictions of course. You have to be 16 to buy a gun. I believe in the other 49 States you still have to be either 18 or 21. Though you can’t buy a gun until age 16, you can possess a long gun at any age. You can possess handguns under age 16 with parental permission. VT is proof that there is a big difference between libertarian blue and socialist blue.

    There is much more to living free than just gun rights though. The pace that the Southwest is on may get us to the point that non-Spanish speakers will become 2nd class citizens ineligible for public sector jobs and once the La Raza gang has control, see how many contracts non-Hispanic owned business get from the State. Just look at how it works in black majority cities. The demographic trend is not on the side of gringos in the Southwest.

    My other concern is the arid conditions, worsening drought conditions, and depletion of aquifers at the same time as populations continue to rapidly increase. There is a future environmental carrying capacity crisis coming to the region at some point. Most economists would say I’m nuts for thinking it is a good thing our population up here is not growing. We have sufficient agriculture relative to our population which would be a good thing come SHTF.

    Twice in my life I was sufficiently enchanted with Arizona that I thought I might want to live there, but I’m glad I took the path I did.

    #40737
    Tolik
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    I have to agree with all points , bravo for Vermont in its Constitutional adherence . I will be in Maine soon as you know , wont miss the SW . have no idea about their gun laws as of yet .

    #40748
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    Tolik, as you know, VT and Maine have much in common. Maine is gun friendly, though you do need a “shall issue” license for concealed carry I believe. Northern New England is just a different mindset than Southern New England even if other parts of the country lump us all in together. Different demographics and maybe the low population density of VT/NH/ME vs MA/RI/CT drives much of the difference. 3 substantially rural States vs 3 substantially urban States can make for big differences. I’ll be heading down to MA this afternoon and though where I used to live has all the stereotypical New England charm, it always feel good when I come back across the border. If I didn’t live in VT, Maine would be my next choice.

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