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  • #41749
    Malgus
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    Whirl,

    I agree with everything you’ve said.

    The difference is a sidearm carried during war, and a sidearm carried during peacetime to defend oneself.

    War? Semi auto, hands down. Specifically the 1911A1. The M9 sucks. Not all semis are created equal. I was in during the transition, and the glaring deficiencies became apparent. I even met one of the officers – a Captain – who was on the board who approved the design. The 1911A1 is superior. The only reason we adopted the Beretta is because the Italians gave us permission to put medium range missiles in their country. Gave them a sweet deal on that factory they built in the US so we could “adopt” their crappy pistol.

    But all that aside, a semi is necessary for war. Going solely by the volume of fire they possess (edit: should be “are capable of”) makes that an easy choice.

    Peacetime? Going by the FBI’s own statistics, only 2 or 3 shots are fired during a shooting scrape. (Of course, given the recent shooting incidents where both sides fire dozens, if not hundreds, of rounds with less than 1% of the rounds fired actually hitting their intended mark, perhaps carrying a semi-auto with multiple dozens of rounds of spare ammo is a good idea, being as training seems to be…. less than adequate. So my data might be out of date)…

    I don’t particularly care which school anyone follows – if you are capable of carrying it, comfortable with it, can hit with it reliably and have enough ammo to feed it, that’s good enough for me. But the rule still stands – the little guns give you a chance to get to the bigger guns.

    And from my gunsmithing standpoint, yeah if you’re only a parts changer, then fixing semi autos is pretty simple. Pull out broken part, drop in new, assemble, function/safety check, out the door. Given enough voltage, a monkey could do it.

    Then there’s the stupid mag cutoff – drop your mag to reload, you inop the pistol. Who thought that bright idea up? Disable it, you open yourself up to a vicarious liability can of worms – even if the customer wants you to and signs a waiver… Drop the mag important side down, you bend the feed lips and inop the mag.

    We could sit and bash everything we each don’t like individually till Rapture – point is, I’m not going to sit and tell someone what they want or what would be best, because that’s freaking impossible since I’m not them. No one gun can do it all and each design has their strong points – choose appropriately depending on mission.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #41755
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    sledjockey
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    Now I am only a lowly hunter’s education instructor that seems to get stuck teaching newbies all the time, but not getting paid. Not sure how many people I have taught, but it has to be in the 100’s somewhere. All I know from my time is as such: Many that learn on a semi seem to make up for accuracy with dependence upon firepower. Again, that is my assessment from my own experience. Nothing scientific about it…. Those that I teach and give 1 cartridge to at a time, make them master the mechanics of reloading and control operation, and get plenty of practice concentrating and mastering each shot seem to be better shots afterwards. Too many times I see unsafe people that went to a “gun class” that are not in full control of their firearm. It REALLY ticks me off, honestly.

    I learned to shoot with a single shot H&R rifle. When I moved to handguns, I was taught with a SA revolver where I was forced to load 1 cartridge at a time. My brother was taught the same way. When I started teaching my kids, they were taught with semi initially because that is what I had the most of. To this day I still have a heck of a time getting my son to quit depending upon a follow up shot. My wife actually commented that she learned more with the single shot and SA type systems than she did with any semi type firearms. She also has no problem with safety with those older style actions whereas it is almost like she lost her brain with an semi in her hands.

    Now like in most things, your mileage may vary and each person is different. I really do think that spending more time on each shot, loading each round, and forcing a safe firearm after each shot builds more muscle memory than firing a round and HOPING that they remember to put the firearm in safe between each round fired. Newbies I deal with just seem to never get the safety thing down with a semi.

    Freedom: Use what you got and what you like…… You going to buy a new car for someone to learn to drive or are you just going to teach them with what you already have? Make sure they can “drive” all your firearms and be proficient with each. I think I already mentioned that before, though.

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    #41758
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    rnews

    The easiest gun for a beginner to learn with is the same gun that shoots the best for anyone. Good sights, a great trigger, ergonomicly well designed with good balance, accurate, and has little recoil.

    Single actions fit this criteria better than double actions due to the short trigger pull and long trigger pull on DA guns. It doesn’t matter if the pull is as smooth and light as stroking a chunk of soft butter on a DA.

    Learning to line the sights up before pulling the trigger is what learning to be accurate is all about. Some people just can’t figure that part out, it doesn’t matter how many bullets are in the gun.

    #42108
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    Whirlibird, thanks for the tip – was unaware of the SnagMags.

    And thanks for the referral here. The old homestead has now sadly but officially disappeared. Just began exploring here today.

    GS

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