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  • #35022
    Leopard
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    Donetsk hospital № 3 located in densely-populated residential area in Donetsk, Kalininskiy district was hit by Ukrainian shell yesterday at about 11 a.m. (January 19).

    The hospital is located in student campus area between two colleges: Donetsk Medical School with dormitories being just 400 meters away from the hospital and Donetsk Trade Institute located just across the road from the hospital.

    Several shells struck hospital building, the devastation aftermath could be seen at the photo below. One of the shells struck hospital central entrance. Windows were broken, glasses were all over the place. Central heating system has been damaged so there’s water everywhere on the floor. Cardiology unit was mostly affected. One cardiologist is claimed to be wounded.

    Patients were taken to empty wards on the first floor as the most damaged were the second, third and fourth floors. Another one injured — a woman pharmacist was contused and shell-shocked. Five aged patients were also contused.

    http://novorossia.today/central-hospital-hit-by-ukrainian-shell-in-donetsk/

    #35023
    Leopard
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    22January – Armoured Forces of Ukraine are shelling the Donetsk Metallurgical Plant

    UAF are trying to harm gas distribution equipment and it will provoke serious damages for all the plant.

    http://novorossia.today/armoured-forces-of-ukraine-are-shelling-the-donetsk-metallurgical-plant/

    Why would anybody in their right mind try to destroy their own countries gas supply? Are they fighting some other county’s war?

    #35025
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    Leopard, The gas is probably used locally in the area controlled by the Russian backed separatists.

    #35069
    Tolik
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    And the Ukrainian Nazi’s are supported by the US , aren’t we a proud and nobel people .

    #35070
    Whirlibird
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    <div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>Tolik wrote:</div>And the Ukrainian Nazi’s are supported by the US , aren’t we a proud and nobel people .

    What does that have to do with the subject?

    #35071
    Tolik
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    It has a lot to do with it . This guy would not be as bold if he were not supported by the west . With the losses they have suffered , if he was on his own , he would have negotiated a resolution and it would have been over by now . Same with Saddam Hussein , we made the monster he became , because he had backing , then we ended up having to clean up the mess . Supporting highly questionable people in these small countries creates monsters , they cant handle the power , they are not like countries such as Germany , the UK , etc. who you can pretty much have confidence in if they ask for your help …..these guys ( Ukrainians ) are a Junta , they dont care what they do or how they do it ………..Just Sayin .

    #35073
    Whirlibird
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    Sounds just like the russians to me.

    #35074
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    There is a geopolitical game underway. Russia could crush Ukraine in a day if Putin wanted. The real question in my mind is why are they letting this go on for months.

    #35076
    Whirlibird
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    Perhaps because the Ukraine is a sovereign country?
    Because it would garner the ire of other nations.

    What happened to the good old days when the “aid” to the rebels was actually hidden not shown on CNN?

    As I look at russia and their assistance and such to reclaim people and lands that are “Russian”, I am reminded of the sudatenland and czechoslovakia in the early days of WWII. This is more than a little similar to the Nazi invasions of those countries.

    And Russia isn’t exactly innocent here, they have tried similar things in the past, Finland for example, pretty much the entire slavic world at one point in the last century.

    Gent I know, Russian in Denver, has nothing good to say about Putin or the situation in the Ukraine and russian involvement. But then he’s not in russia and can speak freely without being jailed or executed.

    #35077
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    Whirly, Maybe but if that really mattered I don’t think Putin would have carved a piece out to start with. He’s waiting for something.

    #35081
    Whirlibird
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    Putin is trying to safe face and keep the cash coming in.

    The russians have a history of not liking when people tell them to pound sand.

    Historically, they would have invaded and annexed.
    Now, the economic climate has changed, the russian bear is old and lost much of its fur. The threat of the commies doesn’t scare people like it once did.

    They’ve lost too many times in recent history. They lost germany, they lost Afghanistan, they lost to Reagan, their only victories to speak of, south Africa and zimbabwe. And even those have become chinese victories.

    Putin can wait all he wants, but russia can be taken down just as easily as SA and Rhodesia, easier because unlike these Russia is dependent nowadays on export. Be it gas, oil, guns and ammo, Russia can’t afford sanctions, at all.

    #40602
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    First time I read this response.
    Your comments on “taking down” Russia demonstrate an ignorance of history.
    Russia has one attribute that has defeated enemies continually. Enemies like Hannibal, Napoleon and Hitler that were decimated in the process and still Russia is around.
    Russia’s strongest attribute is to lure an enemy in and then outlast the enemy with “DEPRIVATION”.
    Russia will just outlast you with weather, scorched earth, sheer will to survive or 12 time zone size, regardless of its political personality, government style or perceived weaknesses.
    You grossly underestimate Mother Russia’s history, the people and what they are capable of.

    #40603
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    I think there is a difference between what Whirli is saying and what cpa23 is saying. This is external ventures projecting power versus internal protecting the motherland. The sheer magnitude of loss Russia incurred in WWII speaks to a fierce determination no matter the price to protect the motherland. My understanding is that Russia continues to maintain massive civil defense infrastructure and preparations.

    #40604
    Tolik
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    First time I read this response.
    Your comments on “taking down” Russia demonstrate an ignorance of history.
    Russia has one attribute that has defeated enemies continually. Enemies like Hannibal, Napoleon and Hitler that were decimated in the process and still Russia is around.
    Russia’s strongest attribute is to lure an enemy in and then outlast the enemy with “DEPRIVATION”.
    Russia will just outlast you with weather, scorched earth, sheer will to survive or 12 time zone size, regardless of its political personality, government style or perceived weaknesses.
    You grossly underestimate Mother Russia’s history, the people and what they are capable of.

    You are correct . Sanctions are a joke , they will inconvenience them at best , or piss them off enough to re arm more heavily at worst . The Bear is as tough as it needs to be . people say they are not afraid of them anymore , thats a lie , plenty of nations fear them , including the US and NATO nations , especially the ones that have a border with them . People still are hesitant to mess with them also . You must excuse the successfully propagandized and conditioned members of the forum , as we all know our government has never lied to us . As far as economies go , lets look at the United States , we now have a national debt that we will never be able to pay off at this point , our economy is now in the hands of other nations good graces . AS far are conflict goes , people all over the world have figured out the formula to defeat the US …………..it started in Vietnam , its costly , but simple ………all you have to do to defeat the US is to outlast them , then they will be forced to leave , either because of financial burden , or pressure from the people to leave . works every time . Speaking of Afghanistan , the US has been there longer than the Soviets were , and have accomplished no more than they did . We have a pretty big loosing streak also . Just Sayin .
    But hey , everybody in uniform is an expendable piece of meat …………..at least thats how our leaders have seen them after WW2 .Game of risk anyone ? Party at my mansion after the game .

    #40605
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    Opium funds Afghanistan.
    80% of the worlds opium comes from there.
    Do the math.

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