March 14, 2016 at 3:27 pm #47847
Well we are seeing the real truth behind the Trump rallies protesters, they are part of a well plan by Bill Ayers the Communist which pays all of these protesters to stop Trump rallies. Bill Ayers is financed by George Soros another communist. Trump looks like has them nerviest. We all need to keep our eyes open to what they are doing. If it was Cruz they would be doing the same thing. These communist will do anything to stop Trump but I think it will not work this time. Trump is a revolution happening that they can’t stop.March 14, 2016 at 10:18 pm #47848
If they hurt him, it will get violent. Problem is, I’m not sure that they get that.March 14, 2016 at 10:28 pm #47850
Agree WhiteKnight, We are more divided that I thought. Things are not looking good. I am in Miami Florida and can say that 10 of 15 family members voted already for Trump. All are Cuban American not voting for Rubio or Cruz. I also voted for Trump. Below is another reason I voted for Trump. The two parties are in bed with each other and with the elite and Trump has said this many times.
Photo shows Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush together at Reagan’s funeralMarch 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm #47853
I read an article that said Illinois voters in suburban and rural areas are increasingly going with Trump because they are so angry at what the so called protestors did in Chicago.
I find it very interesting that the communists/socialists who in theory should be supporting Bernie are not trying to derail the Hildebeast. Why aren’t they protesting at her rallies?March 15, 2016 at 12:40 am #47854
I find it very interesting that the communists/socialists who in theory should be supporting Bernie are not trying to derail the Hildebeast. Why aren’t they protesting at her rallies?
I’m really serious about this, not just spouting off a knee-jerk response. It’s straight out of chapter four of the Communist Manifesto. That chapter is only 3/4 of one page long, unlike the other three chapters. I really thought I understood that piece for over 30 years, having studied it extensively in my college days, and still owning it as part of an old Bantam Books paperback, Essential Works of Marxism. I sold or gave away the majority of my poli-sci books after a few years, but that one was a keeper because of its reference value. It actually became more and more of value as the years went by. There was a period of more than a decade (probably closer to 15 years) that I doubt I even opened it once – too busy with other things. But then I went back and started re-studying it, and found things I’d never noticed before. But what really struck me after reviewing the seemingly main part of the book (the Manifesto specifically), was what suddenly jumped out upon reading that less-than-one-page final chapter. It turns out to be the most important part, really. In just the last eight sentences of the book the following three sentences virtually jumped off the page at me:
In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.
— and —
They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution.
What few people realize is that there is an active, committed CPUSA, they maintain their web site, and in the past few years significantly upgraded the tracking capability of their web site to track who’s going to see it. They’re quite proud of their organization, and how it interfaces with many other organizations both in the US as well as around the world.
Having attended a liberal northeastern university that nearly cancelled the final semester of my senior year due to riots, etc., I became well acquainted with those that were behind all the chaos, violence, destruction, etc. As I watched the protests Friday night at the cancelled Trump event, it was like a flashback with no need for the drugs. It’s the same (almost word for word) chants, same look, same tactics, and you can pick out the organizers from the duped participants in a heartbeat if you’ve already lived through it deeply before. Living not too far from a major military installation that has been “blessed” with an annual demonstration that brings bus loads of protesters in from around the nation, it’s just been an annual flashback to the 60s for me. They look, sound, act, and interact exactly as they did in the 60s – and last Friday was no different. It’s impossible that they’re simply a spontaneous outpouring of emotion, given the carbon-copy chants, appearances, tactics, etc.
Even if one wants to dismiss the argument that’s been made elsewhere on this Forum about the existence of a fundamental evil movement in this world that goes well beyond national boundaries and interests, it would be hard to argue against the fundamentals envisioned and detailed first by Marx and Engels, and then brilliantly added to by Alinsky, Cloward, and Piven, as being solidly in play. This is highly orchestrated, heavily funded, and its aim is what we see so blatantly in South Africa and elsewhere – including to a lesser but fast-growing extent in the US. It’s not about destroying Hillary so sweet ol’ socialist Bernie can finally come to power, and it’s not just about destroying the Republican Party’s chances of a victory in November. It’s about “the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions,” the “political order of things,” and causing “the ruling classes [to] tremble.” Marx was dead serious, as are his adherents today.
I don’t choose to focus on the term “Communist” or even “communist.” That term has been very effectively neutralized thanks to Uncle Saul since he and Hillary became best buds before his death. Forget the labels – it’s the tactics and the intended end that really matter, and they’re happening right in front of us. The labels and names honestly don’t matter – in part because it really isn’t about the “communism” that Marx and Engels described economically in their first three long chapters anyway. Ironically, that’s part of how it’s been so easy for them to neutralize the term “communist” in recent decades – they can easily show that communism really IS dead – it actually never really existed, whether in the USSR, PRC, or Cuba (they did NOT practice communism – they just used the label – great distraction, brilliant strategy).
Don’t get too distracted by “protests” themselves. Instead, notice who’s doing the protesting, HOW those protests are organized and conducted, how they simply cannot be spontaneous given the size, uniformity of many of the signs, the obviously practiced chants, and many other clues that can be recognized – if it’s been “seen” over and over for 50 years or more. I’m just waiting for the classic oldie but goodie, “Hey, hey! Ho ho! Donald Trump has got to GO!” (Perhaps it’s already been used and I just missed it – wouldn’t be surprised.) The idea is to destroy the political order, thereby destroying what’s left of even the facade of the formerly solid structure of the Republic (Declaration and Constitution-style). Perhaps they reason that to try to destroy BOTH parties openly, or even candidates in both parties, would be too obvious. Instead, I suspect they’re focusing on Trump in order to keep the illusion of a 2-party system while they do their work, thereby pulling in more to their cause (as “useful idiots”). It’s a brilliant, complicated strategy – I say brilliant because of where it’s gotten them within just some of our adult lifetimes.
Want some real fun? First use an anonymous search engine like ixquick.com and then enter “CPUSA” as your search term. Notice the Twitter accounts, national and state organization web sites, Facebook page, etc., etc. If you don’t want to be tracked, once you get the list of seach results, just click on “Proxy” after the URL in each search result, instead of clicking on the result itself, and you’ll usually be able to see what’s on most of the page (some won’t come up because CPUSA is doing a better job of tracking their visitors these days). Then go check out REVCOM.US as your search term if you don’t want to go directly to their site, and use the proxy view there as well. It’s truly an amazing experience for anyone not familiar with what’s hidden in plain sight. Quoting the very top of today’s edition of their web site we find:
Get Ready for an Actual Revolution
Get Ready to Bring This System DOWN
They’re serious. The attachment is a photo of protests in New York City just over a year ago. Such signs have shown up in various protests around the nation particularly in and since Ferguson, though it’s unlikely most have noticed them. They show up in live shots of demonstrations, but later on when they keep showing the same old clips over and over, the ones with the RevCom.US signs are NOT repeated by the networks. My guess is that they don’t want to be too blatant by putting out the word to street reporters and camera crews that they are not to include any RevCom signs in their coverage, figuring few will see the live shots, and even fewer will notice the signs. Later they’ll use clips for re-showing over and over that do NOT have the RevCom signs in them. Spontaneous? Let me get my wading boots and shovel before I go any further with THAT concept! (And if there are any questions about me just passing along what I’ve found on the internet with this attachment – the answer is an absolute no. I’ve seen the signs on multiple occasions personally – but only in live coverage, never repeat video clips for later coverage.)March 15, 2016 at 1:10 am #47857
This is a great video only 1 minute long.
March 15, 2016 at 1:20 am #47859
- This reply was modified 4 years ago by freedom.
“The issue is not the issue; the issue is the revolution”
Everything and anything that advances the cause is good.March 15, 2016 at 1:35 am #47861
74 – bingo.
Freedom – yes, that video sounds great. It’s just important to realize that it does NOT represent the main FoxNews thrust. FoxNews so blatantly misrepresented the “massive” demonstration in Chicago Friday night it was literally laughable – the moment the aerial shot showed a very concentrated demonstration with clearly less than 1000 people – hundreds at best. And they’ve characterized as a “near riot” (their term, not my paraphrase) what went on inside the auditorium where the event was to be held. “Near riot?” There were extremely few “hands on” encounters at all, and apparently no real injuries at all, nor was there significant damage. There was no “near riot.” But Fox has really doubled down on Trump (I have watched them more in the past week than probably in the past two months combined). They play their “fair and balanced” game, forgetting that 10 pounds on one side of the scale is not fairly balanced out by a few ounces on the other side of the scale. They just point to the fact that there are “weights” on both sides, and conveniently forget how much and what kind. Don’t forget that Judge Napolitano lost his program on Fox Business Network when he went TOO far a while back. I will not be surprised if Judge Jeanine loses hers also, and only shows up as an occasional guest on somebody else’s show (like they’ve done to Napolitano).
There’s a much bigger game going on, and it’s about destruction of the constitutional republic created more than two centuries ago, and already recognized as mortally wounded by Jefferson by 1820. But the illusion of a two party system giving us choices, and primaries giving us choices within those parties has still been successfully presented to us, so we’re not even seeing the curtain, let alone who’s really behind it, what strings they’re pulling, and who/what they’re manipulating.March 15, 2016 at 2:13 am #47867
GS I agree. Foxnews doesn’t want Trump. But what I am seeing is more people are seeing the truth.
74 the issue is the revolution YES!!! We are in the middle of a revolution without weapons.March 16, 2016 at 4:53 am #47877
I decided to go back and review the original post’s link. Like many things, the more you read or watch something, the more you get out of it. Particularly, on watching the video, I saw something I somehow missed before. At :43 seconds into the video, you see who’s a significant part of this organized (WELL organized) protest: RevCom, the Revolutionary Communist Party, mentioned above in a previous post (even though I at least consciously missed that when I originally reviewed the link Freedom posted in the top contribution).
Listen to the chants – it’s highly rehearsed. They know the responses. Listen to the carbon-copy comments, the key words (for example, “privilege” – spoken by a white woman – I had to laugh out loud at that one), etc. For those on liberal college campuses in the 60s, this is 50 year old stuff – not being resurrected, but still being used, and having been further perfected.
Reading the comments below the article, I was struck by how many people really do “get” it. No, Bill Ayers – this is NOT fire from below. This is highly funded, highly organized, from the top down, by very powerful people, very dark-hearted people, in the most evil sense of that word. Anyone that cannot see it is blind. My signature line, used much longer than just here in the SHTF Forum, refers exactly to this phenomenon. This is not just misguided people, or legitimate political difference. It’s not even about politics – that’s just the outward excuse it uses to appear legitimate. Read it for yourself below.
Following is the first half of the final chapter (or as Marx calls it, “Section”) of the Manifesto. Note how they really do not care WHAT organization or group they infiltrate. The seeming alliances were not that at all – joining with the groups mentioned was for the purpose of using them to further the cause described by Marx (not the group’s cause). Amazingly they will even work with and seemingly for the bourgeoisie when it suits their purposes. Read the following slowly, noticing that that’s exactly what Marx is explaining: infiltrate and USE whatever group is most useful for furthering their purpose, regardless of whether it’s own aims are really in line with what the “communists” are trying to achieve. (Marx called them communists as part of the deception. More on that below.) Today it’s the Democrat Party, and more particularly the candidate (Sanders) running under its banner in order to gain legitimacy for the term “socialist.” They’ve been doing it from within the Republican Party as well, and we can now see the evidence after many decades, as we realize “there’s not a dime’s worth of difference” in the outcome regardless of who’s in charge. So here it is (the bold print emphasis is mine in order to flag the seeming absurdity of the alliance Marx used for illustration):
Section II has made clear the relations of the Communists to the existing working-class parties, such as the Chartists in England and the Agrarian Reformers in America.
The Communists fight for the attainment of the immediate aims, for the enforcement of the momentary interests of the working class; but in the movement of the present, they also represent and take care of the future of that movement. In France, the Communists ally with the Social-Democrats(1) against the conservative and radical bourgeoisie, reserving, however, the right to take up a critical position in regard to phases and illusions traditionally handed down from the great Revolution.
In Switzerland, they support the Radicals, without losing sight of the fact that this party consists of antagonistic elements, partly of Democratic Socialists, in the French sense, partly of radical bourgeois.
In Poland, they support the party that insists on an agrarian revolution as the prime condition for national emancipation, that party which fomented the insurrection of Cracow in 1846.
In Germany, they fight with the bourgeoisie whenever it acts in a revolutionary way, against the absolute monarchy, the feudal squirearchy, and the petty bourgeoisie.
But they never cease, for a single instant, to instill into the working class the clearest possible recognition of the hostile antagonism between bourgeoisie and proletariat, in order that the German workers may straightway use, as so many weapons against the bourgeoisie, the social and political conditions that the bourgeoisie must necessarily introduce along with its supremacy, and in order that, after the fall of the reactionary classes in Germany, the fight against the bourgeoisie itself may immediately begin.
The Communists turn their attention chiefly to Germany, because that country is on the eve of a bourgeois revolution that is bound to be carried out under more advanced conditions of European civilisation and with a much more developed proletariat than that of England was in the seventeenth, and France in the eighteenth century, and because the bourgeois revolution in Germany will be but the prelude to an immediately following proletarian revolution.
In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.
Note that he’s not saying they support “every revolutionary movement [that is] against the existing social and political order.” Read his final sentence again – they support anything they can use so THEY can achieve the destruction of the social and political order. Surely no one can accuse the bourgeoisie of being communist – yet they used them when it was a way of disrupting (destroying) the existing order. Watch what’s happening now through that lens. The picture will become much more clear.
Through that lens one can better understand how a John Boehner can get to his position of almost absolute power within the Republican Party, and accomplish the destruction he accomplished. Or how about Mitch McConnell, married to his ChiCom-connected wife Elaine Chao, who got into her top level position as Bush II’s Secretary of Labor, with no opposition even from that supposed great anti-communist Senator Jesse Helms. That confirmation hearing was one of the biggest bad jokes in the history of Congress. How do people like that wield so much power in what was supposed to be the anti-communist party? (That’s a rhetorical question.) And through that lens one also better understands how the education system has become so skillfully and widely corrupted, and how the media has become the tool to shape the attitudes of acceptance for all this, at least in part by diverting attention from things or in come cases not covering them at all.
Forget the words “communist” and “communism.” Marx used even (or especially) those as a diversion in order to create an argument that keeps us looking at the wrong shell in the game. It was never about communism – that term was a red herring from the start. Watch the process over time, notice the identical works of the 60s (and even earlier with other “protests” in previous decades). It’s a multi-generational process, with a commitment level that few people outside that “order” understand. And it’s pure evil. People can call that paranoia, lunacy, or whatever – but they can’t deal with the facts and the history when confronted with them. They have to resort to Alinsky’s brilliant “Rules” for dealing with reality, in order to avoid dealing with reality, thereby creating a false one.March 17, 2016 at 11:44 pm #47893
Trump is a smart man, he had the media provide him with 30 million dollars worth of FREE public relations time. The TRUMP campaign has really scared the mainstream Republicans, they are now openly seeking to prevent him from becoming the convention’s choice. He may have to start a new political party. What does he have on the mainstream establishment politicos? Maybe, they don’t want that information to come out. We know Hillary and the Clinton Klan are crooks, but what does he have on the big wigs in Washington?March 18, 2016 at 12:18 am #47894
He has the people ! If used properly , that can be the most powerful weapon a country , or leader has . People are sick of professional politicians .March 18, 2016 at 12:50 am #47896
Trump is not a sure rubber stamp to all the nasty things the great majority of CONgresscritters want to do to us for their globalist paymasters. There’s only so much a wannabe dictator pretendsident can get away with, without some sort of unconstitutional law to base it on, unless he’s ready to come completely out of the Stalinist closet — and despite appearances, Zero’s not … yet. The one-way street (to Hades) that is our current fedgov depends on the three branches backing each other up, especially when they’re shafting us, in a fresh new way.
I can’t tell whether Trump would play their game, or not, but neither can the old pros, and that’s what spooks them.
Corvus wrote: What does he have on the mainstream establishment politicos?
Probably not much, but their main worry is, they don’t have anything really devastating on him, or they (read: JEB and the “donor class”) would have flown it from the Washington Monument, and broadcast it on all networks, by now. I think that’s why they’re piddling around with all these ineffective “Bully!, Sexist!, Racist” charges, that his opponents may enjoy saying, but haven’t really changed many minds.
Cry, "Treason!"March 25, 2016 at 1:17 am #47991
Yes the sexist racist card may not work well. Hillary has so much on her that Trump is going to have all the news media going crazy an when Trump starts on Bill molesting all the interns that Bill did it is going to start WWIII. The sex card is going to burn with Bill. The Criminal card with Hillary. It is going to be fun TV. Trump is not Romney or McCain for sure Trump will hit back hard.March 25, 2016 at 3:53 am #47992
“LyingTed”. As France prepares for war tonight and Trump is right right right. The lying media just can’t cover this stuff up anymore.
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