February 15, 2015 at 2:51 am #36574
Stocks of green tip will be gone in a day or so.February 15, 2015 at 4:15 am #36582
Yep I read that one. Looks like you are right. Soon they will be gone.February 15, 2015 at 4:51 am #36584
Another fascist agency that should not exist .February 15, 2015 at 7:32 am #36589
I agree Tolik.
The problem here is they sre a regulatory agency that can effect these sort of changes without actual laws being passed.February 15, 2015 at 4:21 pm #36600
I believe this is just another test on how fare they can go without actual law. If they get away with this then they start thinking about what else they can do.February 15, 2015 at 6:59 pm #36610
The coyotes will be happy. Welcome to NY. Where everything not expressly permitted is banned.February 15, 2015 at 7:34 pm #36613
For every action there is a reaction. People will start hoarding any .223 they can get their hands on. The price goes up, and the cycle starts all over again. Meanwhile I suspect that there are a number of people who will go doesn’t bother me, I already have enough. Not realizing what they are letting the BATF get away with. The President just said he is going to squeeze as much change as he can while he is still on office. Fasten your seatbelt.February 15, 2015 at 7:36 pm #36614
Here some of the Coyotes are pretty bold , they will actually growl at you instead of running sometimes . I’ve used Hexolit 32 on them with a 12 gauge , they dont like that lol . They dont like number 4 shot either .February 15, 2015 at 8:06 pm #36616
The ‘loss’ of m855 is nothing to many of us.
Round here, aside from being overpriced blaster ammo, all it is is a source for cases.
Its main reason for desire, that mild AP capability, actually makes it less desirable. Especially when compared to s 40-45gr SP for home defense or a good 60+gr hunting bullet for everything else. The Barnes 70gr TSX for example has taken the .223 from a poodle shooter into the realm of a serious hunting gun.
Don’t have AP, no big deal, aim for the joints and soft parts, you’ll have better effect anyways.February 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm #36617
Dont know if this is true or not , but I have heard that some helmets wont stop some of the bigger rifle rounds .February 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm #36618
And even if it does, the effect of a .375 bullet hitting is going to have more effect than a simple punch as it were.
At best we are looking at a heck of a case of whiplash.
Worst, think of all those traumatic brain injuries caused when the brain bangs around inside the skull causing unconsciousness, and severe bleeding internally.
FYI, a hard cast lead bullet .458″ and weighing 350-405gr isn’t stopped by 3/8″ steel plate when propelled at 1800fps.
The tree behind doesn’t fare that well either.February 15, 2015 at 9:19 pm #36620
I was wondering about that , I have a buddy from work , that used to belong to one of those private security firms . He was guarding some honcho’s estate in Mexico somewhere , and got hit by a sniper twice , using a Dragunov 7.62x54r . He said the first round hit his chest armor and knocked him down , the other one spun him around when he tried to get up , he was glad there was not a 3rd shot , as by that time his group located the shooter and was putting fire on him .February 15, 2015 at 9:55 pm #36621
Yep Tolik there is no bullet proof helmets, only helps stop some hand gun ammo.February 15, 2015 at 10:19 pm #36622
Whirly, The ATF limiting ammo is a problem whether you like a paticular bullet or not. Barnes makes great bullets but there is a considerable difference between the price of Barnes TSX about .50 cents per bullet versus .12 cents per bullet for fmjsc. To load 500 Barnes it cost $250, for fmjsc 500 runs about $60.February 16, 2015 at 6:52 am #36633
Trust me I know, just loaded a mess of them for next hunting season and to sight in the kids AR.
While I think this whole mess is a load of fecal matter, there is nothing I can do about it.
My experience with the 855’s shows that my generic handload with a comparable Hornady boattail soft point is much more accurate and can double as a defense/hunting bullet.
I shoot a lot of ball for classes, but the premium for 855 versus generic 55gr ball isn’t worth it. The slight difference in accuracy means little on silhouettes.
The regulators want to limit what we have, they’re just limiting themselves in the not too distant future. Last I checked the gun people didn’t forgive and certainly didn’t forget things like this.
It will not go good for them.
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