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  • #19627
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    Over at The Woodpile, Ol’ Remus has some words of wisdom for us…

    The post is “Are We There Yet?” He does a very good job of laying out, in very simple terms, why we’re teetering on the brink of Economic Ragnarök… Everyone should read this.

    http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-378.htm

    Imagine everything familiar collapsing like an accordion in the time between your morning coffee and your first midday yawn. It may happen just that way. In fact, it’s difficult to see how it can happen any other way.

    Back in 2001, the Argentine economy all but collapsed. In a matter of days, the country went from mild recession to full-blown economic crisis. The currency went into freefall. Police were out in the streets shooting protestors. Unemployment and crime rates soared overnight. And the nation defaulted on its debt.
    Simon Black at sovereignman.com, July 10, 2014

    It’s said we’re in hard times, and we are in hard times. But as hard times go, these are the good days. There are those who have known real-and-for-true hard times. Not the poverty porn hawked around by social activists or the tiresome stories peddled in the movies. Actual hard times are ahead, not hard times by comparison but long term destitution with real privation, when we’ll fear a lot more than fear itself.

    Guys and gals, I’m thinking we’re almost out of time… time to run what you brung.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #19634
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    Well I hope that we have a little longer to prepare but I do believe he is correct!

    #19665
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    I expect a trigger event that will pop the balloon in a day. Something with China the EU or both.

    #19675
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    I’m so not as ready as I would like to be!

    #19678
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    Remus is great. I read that post the other day. Was excellent. All should take the time to read it.

    #19679
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    Whiteknight,
    I’m feeling the same way, however if the electricity stays on for a while I’l be ok. Didn’t set up an alternative pump for the well yet.

    #19736
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    WhiteKnight wrote:

    I’m so not as ready as I would like to be!

    Likely, no one ever is!
    I followed Selco’s #1 prepper tip,
    Guns and Ammo, Ammo and Guns,
    G-n-A, A-n-G, and so on…

    I could use more food and water, but have a well and backup power.
    Gardening space, √
    Seed Bank, √
    Garden Tools, √

    I still need reloading equipment, but 2 of my B.O.B. (band of brothers) have setups, but they will join us after the SHTF. Dicey Situation!
    I’d rather have a rock chucker in hand than a Dillon in the city, when the SHTF!
    Anyone know what the minimalist reloader setup would be?
    I also read that steel cases (AK) can be reloaded, but you need a special de-priming tool for the boxer primers. Carbide Dies are necessary as well. My BOB’s do not have ARs either, but I do, so I need the dies regardless. We may have family joining us from a distance so we need to ready the “compound” for “visitors” :D
    Extra blankets and bedding would be great, all hands on deck!

    Oh, we have cash, for a deflationary event, and Silver, for a complete fiat crash or hyperinflationary event, also ¢opper ¢ents, and nickels.
    Money preps can be nickels and copper. Regular change (cupro-nickel dimes and quarters) will still have value, but the copper cents and nickels will actually be more valuable after SHTF than before.
    During the 2008 scrap metals run up, Copper passed $4/pound and a copper cent contained nearly 3¢ worth of metal! That will be way more than the value of a paper dollar if we have hyperinflation.
    The humble US Nickel was worth nearly 8¢ at the same time! Not nearly as much of an ROI (return on investment) but there is no sorting involved with Nickels! Just stack and SAVE!
    Of course, Silver is the superstar of SHTF monetary investing. Silver is suppressed and stands to gain probably TRIPLE what Gold will do.
    It always rises faster in a Bull Market or hyperinflation. Check your History ;)

    "ROGUE ELECTRICIAN" Hoping to be around to re-energize the New World.....

    Cogito, ergo armatus sum

    #19775
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    RGR,

    You –> “Anyone know what the minimalist reloader setup would be? I also read that steel cases (AK) can be reloaded, but you need a special de-priming tool for the boxer primers. Carbide Dies are necessary as well. ”

    I would go with a Lee hand press, carbide dies, including a crimp die. You can get the quick change Lee hand press or the older style. I have the older style and it loads wonderful ammo. Everything you need to reload your cases can fit into a smallish gym bag or big shoe box.

    De-priming boxer cases doesn’t require any special tools, but it does require a bit of ingenuity on your part.

    Drill a stepped hole in a block of hardwood. I recommend white oak.. Big hole should be about 1/2″ deep and just a touch larger than the diameter of the case you want to deprime so it slides in and out easily. Small hole should be centered in the big hole and just a touch larger than the diameter of the primer. Since you reload, I assume you have a micrometer? Measure the primer and case diameter and find the closest drill bits on your machinists’ drill and tap card.

    EDIT: Small hole should go all the way through… you’ll see why.

    Fill the empty case to the neck with water. Put it in the wooden block (big hole). I would find an old drill bit that fit the neck snugly, then chop off the flutes (don’t ever throw away an old drill bit – it’s wonderful pin stock and you can make a nice drift with one if you chop off the flutes). Insert the now-modified drill bit into the case and give it a whack with a mallet. Hydraulic pressure will drive out the primer, which will fall into the smaller, centered hole you drilled. The water will drain out some, but now you have a deprimed case. :)

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    The block of wood need not be large or heavy. Just big enough to hold the case firmly. You could even be really cool and drill another hole off center that will hold the drill-bit-cum-drift-pin. Don’t forget to take a black marker and write on the block of wood what it is and some crude instructions for those who come after you…

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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    #19780
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    Underground,
    Even if you don’t have the equipment now you can still start gathering your components. Bullets, brass, primers and powder. When your friends show up you are ready to load.

    Or If you are going to buy a press, you get what you pay for… A used rock chucker off craigs list or ebay will still still be loading ammo for your great grand kids, kids long after youve started a long nap. Aluminum just doesn’t cut it long term.

    #19794
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    74,

    Aluminum doesn’t cut it long term… you mean the Lee hand press?

    I bought mine in 1997. Still makes outstanding ammo. Granted, I don’t load but a couple hundred, maybe a thousand rounds a year, but still…

    If he could get carbide dies – a 4 die set – for a 310 tool, that would be the ticket. I don’t know of anything smaller and/or more durable than a 310 tool…

    He could get a Lyman 310 tool, then contact CH4D to have some carbide dies spun up for him to fit it. I love a crimping die and highly recommend them in addition to the standard 3 die sets…

    http://www.ch4d.com/

    CH4D is top of the line stuff, and it don’t come cheap. But if it exists, they’ll make it for you out of the best stuff they can obtain. Their stuff will last for generations…

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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    #19796
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    And if you are looking for Berdan primers to reload those cases with: I have not ordered from them yet, but I am trying to budget some money aside for a case of their 762n primers, they are supposed to be the right size for reloading all my Berdan primed .303 brit brass.

    Rob

    #19800
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    I still think we have some time left, believe the economical collapse will happen at the end of 2014 or in the middle of 2015 but no one will really know it was the economical collapse because they will do a false flag event that will be very big world wide that will take every bodies eyes of the market/financial collapse.

    So we may have some time left. Keep preparing.

    #19819
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    Freedom I agree with you. We haven’t seen anything yet, sad to say. Take deep breaths, calm down and keep doing what you know you need to do. Things of the current moment are just a taste of what is building folks. IMHO. Take a bit longer view. Don’t let the day to day news suck you in and waste your time.

    #19849
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    74, check this out.

    http://earthstraw.com/

    Robin

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