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  • #35585
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    sledjockey
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    I put this in News because it is a question about people starting to actually understand and comprehend what is happening in the world……

    Last night I walked past a pre-paid cell phone rack and saw that their basic flip phones were on sale for $6.99. I looked as my wife and mentioned that we should pick up a couple and set them up as burners “just in case.” Her response floored me: She said something to the effect that, “What does it matter if we have burners? Our biggest threat truly comes from Asia right now anyway. Our borders are open. China, Russia, and North Korea wouldn’t really take much to join forces. All three hate us. Our real threat comes from them destroying the dollar and then invading when we can’t borrow to pay for a war.”

    I was dumb founded because my wife “humors” me, but doesn’t whole heartedly contribute to my “hobbies.”

    She isn’t the only one lately that has made similar comments, either. I took a second job to pay for and speed up my gear purchases. Yes, I work as a bouncer at a sports bar on the weekends…. During my time there I feel that I get a good feel for what the population around here is thinking. Over the last few months I have seen more and more people actually offer up that they had started “prepping.” All were within the last 6-12 months that they had started. Now I am not sure if this trend was just because it is becoming more “vogue” to “prep” or if they actually were starting to think for themselves. All of the people that I talked to were discussing valid concerns as to what made them start putting food and equipment back, however.

    Anyone else seeing this trend or do you think it is just a small, cross section of the general population that goes to sports bars that I am seeing this trend in?

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #35590
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    freedom
    Survivalist
    rnews

    sledjockey, Good topic for a post. Here is what happen to me. My wife parents have every year a Christmas party were many of my wife’s side family members go. She has a big family. There is a family member with his wife which I never talk politics with because I know for a fact that they voted for Obama and are more to the left wing type so my wife tells me to no talk politics with them.

    Well I was floored when his wife out of no were tells another member that I know is also a Obama lover which I was right next to the two and says to the other family member that she better take her money out of the banks and keep it at home in a safe. My wife is looking at me like please do not get into this. Then the other one says why would you have a problem with the banks? She tells her well the dollar will collapse soon maybe one to two years from now and when it does you will not be able to get your money. Then came what I almost had to drink a full glass of water to keep my self from talking, She says this has turned into a communist dictator(Obama) with doing whatever he wants with executive orders going around the law and congress. Remember just 6 years ago she was a die hart left wing Democrat which has now taken a 360 turn.

    I still have not said a word. Then her husband which is the family member of my wife walks over and says to me, I am thinking of buying a gun what do you think. WHAT!! Well I told him you know I own many, he says that is why I am telling you that I what not just a hand gun but a shot gun too!

    We talked fro the rest of the party, his eyes were big looking at me, every word I said he was recording in his head. Told him to start with a 9mm and a 12g shot gun. Then came the bad news were he just looked at me like he had an idea but needed someone close to tell him. I told him that the money out of the bank and guns were not going to save him or his family.

    I told him to start buying food in cans and rice and beans to start the storing of food. Showed him how to do it. Then we talked about water and water filters.

    We now email each other once a week.

    The other left wing Dem in the family still doesn’t believe but sees her self as the only one left and may change in time.

    I think that this trend is happening all over the country.

    #35599
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    MountainBiker
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    You were a model of restraint freedom, but it was best to let them talk and then come to you.

    My liberal anti-gun wife is not so anti-gun anymore and rather than not wanting to talk about it as had been the case, now she is interested to hear what my son and I have to say about gun rights, govt. motives with gun control, and the true nature of much of the gun violence in the country (urban gangs, drug-related etc). The woman who voted for ‘Bams twice is no longer a fan of his.

    My liberal son-in-law who owns no guns thinks it would be good if when his girls become teenagers that I teach them how to shoot. Hopefully he’ll come around soon on learning how himself. I think he wants to but just hasn’t voiced it yet. His friend next door is career military so there is some influence coming from that direction too. He too has grown disenchanted with ‘Bams.

    I otherwise haven’t detected much change with folks I know, but as a general rule I don’t bring up the topic anymore.

    #35600
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    MountainBiker
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    One more thing came to mind. I have recently re-established contact with a cousin of mine that I hadn’t been in contact with for 2 years. I’m hoping she and her daughter and granddaughters will visit when school gets out this spring. Anyway, she just told me that her daughter (Farm Girl Erin she called her) and boyfriend bought a house on 1 1/2 acres outside the small city she lives in in Pennsylvania, that she’s putting in a veggie garden, and had chicks on order for spring delivery, plus the daughter makes various organic products for women as an offshoot of her midwifery career. I haven’t seen this girl in quite a long time but from the sound of my cousin, she blossoming into something different than she had been. I am anxious for them to visit. Maybe she is becoming aware of the condition of the world???

    #35603
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    74
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    rnews

    No mater how liberal a person might be, if they don’t have a totally closed mind to social economic conditions, they have to see the dangerous situation of the world. Even if they have the wrong reasons for where we are, they are starting to recognize the peril.

    #35604
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    Roadracer
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    member7

    I’ve been hesitant to post this because I didn’t think I had a large enough sample to be sure. But what you all are posting confirms what I have been seeing. First a big uptick in the number of people seeking mental health treatment. Second, I have been very quiet about my beliefs in my neighborhood. Vast majority are university professors and deans. They have begun talking about their concerns about the loss of freedom in this country. Two years ago at a concert, they were applauding a performer who espoused a Socialist view.

    Perhaps the President and Progressive cadre have overstepped their bounds. More and more of their supporters are having second thoughts. I will be interesting to watch this develop.

    #35605
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    freedom
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    MB, I think there are a lot of liberal Dems that do not want to talk in public about this but some are buying guns too and storing food! Wow can you believe it!

    74, Yes they are seeing the economical collapse coming, I say it is now a 50/50 of the Liberals are seeing what is really happening. More and more are arming them self to and storing food so now the government will put them on the list too!!!

    #35606
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    Brulen
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    member9

    I haven’t noticed any of my lib relatives getting any smarter. For the most part they’ve remained as dangerously stupid as they always were. A little light occasionally doesn’t change years of darkness.

    #35608
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    sledjockey
    Bushcrafter
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    Everyone seemed to go directly to liberals as the ones changing, but I have seen several becoming disillusioned with the whole “socialism is good” ideals. One die hard Dem I know that was well known by her friends for blocking Rep people she befriended on FB when they expressed their views has actually began criticizing the Obamination. This was a shocker.

    I asked a coworker after I posted this and he confirmed what we are saying. More people are “getting prepared.” Some of his friends who don’t follow politics are starting to prep for instance. His close “blinders on” friends are not yet, although his brothers did surprise everyone when they bought guns lately.

    http://ageofdecadence.com

    #35629
    Tolik
    Tolik
    Survivalist
    member10

    I dont think they are , I think all the disinformation , distractions , and propaganda are still covering their eyes . Thats the problem with living in the tech age , its too easy for the powers to feed the people all the BS they can eat ……………and they have a healthy appetite .

    #35656
    wildartist
    wildartist
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    Some are possibly getting the gut feeling that “something” is wrong, it has not become the liberal paradise they expected–the new healthcare was not free, etc.

    On the other hand, I see so SO many out in public, in a hypnotic state, staring at their cellphones or texting. I imagine them in their homes mesmerized by a game console, or in front of the TV. Worse yet driving while texting… Most cannot even jog or walk without something electronic feeding their ears/brain. Remind me of old Star Trek Borgs…

    Meanwhile the govt is stealing everything including our freedom, the world is falling apart (Saudi king’s death, Yemen govt coup, another beheading…) and no one seems to notice.

    #35657
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    freedom
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    rnews

    Well this family member just got the 9mm so he has taken a turn big time. He called me to tell me that he was also picking up the shot gun and ammo. They have already taken a lot of there money out of the bank, told me he will only deposit what is needed to pay the bills.

    I am now going to work on him to start the food storage.

    He and his wife were 100% Obama voters and now have told me that they made a large mistake voting for him.

    I think if this keeps happening it will help all of us when there is a collapse.

    #35659
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    74
    Survivalist
    rnews

    I believe there is a lot of buyers remorse right now.

    #35666
    Whirlibird
    Whirlibird
    Survivalist
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    I won’t hazard a guess at the cause, but I have observed a couple of things.

    People aren’t fixing the older or broken guns, they are getting new.

    My last couple of classes (ccw) have had people new to shooting that I would have never expected. Some with rainbow tattoos, some with the significant other, some with their kids.

    No pattern or definable group but a much larger diversity of people, especially from the left of center.

    If there is one consensus, it is that something just isn’t right.
    Not just politically, but socially.

    Right now there hardly seems a state where something bad isnt happening, beyond the hatred of police and politicians.

    Things are spinning faster and faster, with no obvious end in sight,.

    Be it economic, political, what have you, people everywhere are feeling the strain.

    Checking with some LE friends, business is good, too good.
    More and more people aren’t able to deal with the daily stress and are having to figure things out with the help of Ofc Friendly.
    Too many people.

    #35690
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    freedom
    Survivalist
    rnews

    I think the independent voter that has voted more to the left but is not all left wing just likes some parts of the left are changing since they don’t like the Obama hard left wing agenda. Then there are the same type of group in the Democratic voter that is also left on some policies but again not to the point of the hard left wing agenda that is going on now.

    They are seeing freedoms being limited and the laws of the land being violated by executive order. Some are not with Obama on the immigration executive order he signed.

    This group is now buying guns and taking there monies out of there bank accounts, some are storing food and becoming preppers which at one point thought preppers were crazy but not anymore.

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