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    Whirlibird
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    #47889
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    I also hope it will happen. Maybe this will happen first in Utah and pushed by other states too.

    #47890
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    Yes it is a good move but ‘Bams will never sign it. Hopefully it is the start of Western States starting to assert themselves as concerns Federal land ownership out West.

    #47892
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    I like it, probably a reliable negative indicator. If CONgresscritters from other western States were to support it, would it have a chance at passage? Yeah … fat chance, in a government dominated by urban politicians, and still trying to grow larger. Still, it’s time to start pushing. Next prez? We’ll see.

    Trying to remake the Forest Circus and the Bureau of Land Mismanagement into Zero’s “civilian” army was never a good idea.

    Cry, "Treason!"

    #47895
    Tolik
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    I would like to see it , I would love to see the BLM , ATF , DHS , NSA , and other Nazi organizations go away . Bring it back to 1950’s base , CIA = international affairs , FBI = national affairs , local and state LE for the rest . We really DONT need anything more than that …………………never did . Talking about private armies , I would also forbid organizations such as Blackwater , and other Mercenary scum from existing inside the United States . If Utah does manage to pass this bill , More western states will follow soon after , AZ , TX rather quickly , OR and others possibly . Either way I applaud the attempt .

    #47897
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    If Utah does manage to pass this bill , More western states will follow soon after , AZ , TX rather quickly , OR and others possibly . Either way I applaud the attempt .

    Tolik, these are US Congresscritters, not Utah State legislators – it’s Federal legislation. Yes, there’s the proverbial “snowball’s chance” for it once it arrives on Bammies desk (if it ever even got there – which it won’t), BUT —

    Regardless of what anyone thinks of Trump, everyone is acknowledging that he’s at least tapping into a deep current of anger and frustration in the nation – with both parties. Just think what a large segment of the Democrat Party will say (and do?) if they ever really realize what their “own” party has done to them. I truly hope Bernie does well enough that it’s not a runaway for Billary. And just what if, by chance, there would SEEM to be a need for their own brokered convention – based only on the primary votes. Talk about a HUGE number of disenfranchised voters – disenfranchised BY their own party! If the brain-dead Democrat riff-raff ever figure out the “super delegate” system that will massively put Billary over the top, despite a large percentage of Bernie voters, the Democrat establishment should recall that the 60s riots in Chicago were at the DEMOCRAT convention (but the people must not be reminded of that glitch in history!).

    Trump has set the stage for the anger (and hopefully the ACTIVISM – how ’bout THAT for a 60s term!) to really come to a point that it creates a chain reaction that cannot be easily stopped. Whether Trump is really the kind of person we want to be President of the United States or not, he’s possibly awakened a movement that will catch fire, and hopefully the only thing that will be burned down in this revolt will be the Washington (and respective state government) establishments – not the people’s neighborhoods and businesses. We’re still a far stretch from that coming to maturity, but we’re suddenly closer to it than we’ve ever been since the 60s.

    Steppenwolf’s “Monster” lyrics seem more and more appropriate, all these years (nearly 50) later. “America” here, is the people, not the government, and hopefully they’ve been sufficiently awakened. If they fall back asleep, I doubt they’ll ever be awakened again in time.

    The spirit was freedom and justice
    And it’s keepers seem friendly and kind
    It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
    But now they won’t pay it no mind

    ‘Cause the people got fat and grew lazy
    Now their vote is like a meaningless joke
    You know they talk about law, about order
    But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told

    ‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
    It’s got our heads into a noose
    And it just sits there watchin’

    Our cities have turned into jungles
    And corruption is stranglin’ the land
    The police force is watching the people
    And the people just can’t understand

    We don’t know how to mind our own business
    ‘Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
    Now we are fighting a war over there
    No matter who wins, you know we can’t pay the cost

    ‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
    It’s got our heads into the noose
    And it just sits there watching

    America where are you now?
    Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
    Don’t you know we need you now
    We can’t fight alone against the monster

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #47908
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    This type of change will require years of work through legislative and legal action. But it the only way to achieve the final result desired.

    #47916
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    Will the western states hang together? I know several of the states like New Mexico lean liberal. Any time there is an opportunity to halt the spread of the Fed’s it is a win for all of us.

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