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  • #12770
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    morning
    Medic
    rprepper

    A good read anytime.

    Clever Sillies – Why the high IQ lack common sense

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    #12789
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    freedom
    Survivalist
    rnews

    Good reading, I agree with some of what is in the article.

    #12794
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    most are also socially retarded , because of lack of socialization , they focus on only the task at hand , no matter what the cost . Most have no ethics or morality of any kind in the scientific community . Thats why we all need to police them with strict authority . the Nazi’s were defeated , they need to stay that way .

    #13094
    Jay
    Jay
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    The problem I see with some pretty smart guys is that they develop a tunnel vision. That means they are so focused on one or a few areas of expertise they forget the big picture.

    I did a series of interviews for a philosophy themed magazine with some guys leading departments of ivy league universities. Some of them had bestselling books published and were at the top of their fields but I was surprised how limited their overall world view was. Not much better and in some cases worse than when you speak to regular folks who like to read.

    Plus… look who goes into politics… its a certain kind of person who does this.

    Alea iacta est ("The die has been cast")

    #13102
    Selco
    Selco
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    member6

    The problem I see with some pretty smart guys is that they develop a tunnel vision. That means they are so focused on one or a few areas of expertise they forget the big picture.

    Not only that, biggest problem is that as “smarter” guy gets ( or more valued in their field) they are less willing to question themselves, or accept new opinions.
    So at the end we get funny situation that lot of “experts” are kinda close-minded stubborn folks.

    #13135
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Hey! What’s with all this busting on the smart guys?

    In case you all forget, it was the “smart guys” which gave you all the tech you currently enjoy – from mundane stuff like electric lights and flush toilets to high speed tech like your cell phone and the ‘puters you are typing on…

    I ain’t disagreeing with any particular point you all made, just sayin that when things go to ****, you will be truly blessed to have one or more of those nerdy smart guys around… the ones who know how to make insulin and/or penicillin, or an ME or EE or a CE around to help put the basic machines together that make the stuff you need, or design a dam or a bridge or a load bearing retaining wall… a Chemist would be nice, as well as an MD… theoretical physicists? Not so much.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #13142
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Its the Nazi **** , that I think is very dangerous and should be crushed . Unraveling  of the human genome was funded by the government ……………….why is that ?

    Heil Hitler !

    #13146
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Its the Nazi **** , that I think is very dangerous and should be crushed . Unraveling of the human genome was funded by the government ……………….why is that ?

    Heil Hitler ! — Tolik

    Dude, really?

    Okay, look… I ain’t no Nazi. But, I do believe in eugenics.

    Eugenics defined as:
    n. noun
    The study of hereditary improvement of the human race by controlled selective breeding.

    Now, before you start accusing me of singing Deutschland Uber Alles and running around the house wearing SS lightning bolts, hear me out.

    People – that is, humans – have been practicing eugenics for thousands of years. Males are programmed, hard-wired, to choose a mate based on certain criteria. For instance, wide hips makes childbirth easier. Large breasts means a plentiful food supply for newborns and infants. Symmetrical features indicate health, as do other features such as height, musculature, etc. Females are programmed to choose a mate based on traditional masculine traits – tall, strong, broad shoulders, square strong jawline, symmetrical features – all the things that indicate health, which translates into strong children – propagation of the species. Other things also come into play, such as intelligence, status, etc. We’ve been practicing soft eugenics for thousands of years on our own. It’s what humans do.

    Until recently. Now, thanks to advances in the medical field and an overabundance of food means that the best traits are not being passed on. People with hereditary diseases, thanks to modern medicine, are now kept alive instead of dying, which ensures that their hereditary disease is passed on to their offspring. Populations are kept at way above carrying capacity by food donations, ensuring that when the crash comes, it will be that much worse.

    In short, through the efforts of modern medicine and clueless do-gooders, we have bred sickness and disease into the gene poole, weakening us. We are also awash with largely low-IQ mouthbreathers whose sole purpose in life seems to be to consume as many resources as possible, all the while producing as many low-IQ mouthbreathing offspring as possible. Our system, hell the WORLD is groaning under their combined weight.

    In nature, when a population of animals has a sick member, they usually die off and do not pass on their sickness or disease. When the same population of animals exceeds their carrying capacity, there is a dieoff – only the smartest and strongest survive – and balance is restored and the health and robustness of the animals is ensured. Feeding that population of animals, keeping the sick alive, inflating their numbers and sustaining them artificially isn’t doing them any favors in the long run. Eventually, those efforts will end and there will be a massive dieoff.

    Now, I’m pretty much done. You are, of course, free to flame me out of existence. But I’m not a National Socialist… or any other kind of socialist.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #13148
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    74
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    rnews

    I think you built a fair sized bonfire to sit on would you like a match?

    #13195
    Malgus
    Malgus
    Survivalist
    member8

    1974,

    :) Heh.. I just stated my position, free from social convention and nostalgia, which cloud clear thinking…

    But yeah, I think I’m gonna go down in flames for this one. :) That’s what makes it fun. Sitting here, being a timid little mouse gets me nowhere. Taking risks does.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #13199
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    The problem with Eugenics is this , pure and simple ……………NOBODY is smart enough to make that decision , everything humans and scientists do when they try to initiate their idea of ” perfection “…….they **** up , they miss something , and end up making it worse  on another level . And eugenics IS Nazi **** , the reason is …………..its a man made decision , and concept  of ONE groups idea of what things should be , and they more than likely are wrong , because humans are flawed ………….all of them . Let god or warfare make that decision . We think we are smarter than Nature and / or God …………we are not . There was a time when people would kill you as a heretic if you told them ( scientific community ) the world was not flat . Same thing with everything else we do ………we **** it up , better not to make the attempt in the first place , things will be taken care of , with or without our intervention , there will be plagues , famine , war , etc ………..all drop the population down . Both you and I also know , that extending life and the other medical advances was never about caring for humanity ……………it was /is about money . Take the money out of it , and nobody will make the effort to develop anything . It’s not like Sports , where if you took away the multi billions out of the equation , people would still play , with or without the money . As far as socialism goes …………I really dont care , the only thing I care about is returning to , and then keeping the Constitution 100% intact and in force ………….thats what will keep us all free from tyranny , all the other crap doesnt matter all that much ………but I do think that the American people should be the ones to vote for whatever social fluff they want , if they vote and want it …….fine , if they dont , and the people have spoken , and it shouldnt be forced on them by the Washington Soviet . The Constitution is really the only important thing when it comes down to it , the libs can have all the socialism they want , but the Constitution being enforced 100% will prevent a Stalin or Hitler from coming in to power . But again , all that **** should be voted on by the people .

     

    #13209
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    morning
    Medic
    rprepper

    Can’t get me going on this, not now… :) Simple point: I hold a degree in physics but I can put myself in your shoes. The other 99% would not (in all acceptance of the verb “to will”). That’s what the original quoted paper is about: lack of empathy. These days every non-issue has a colourful name: ADHD, Asperger’s, bullying, all the way up to “society”. You make the call whether we’re being conned into buying an Alice in Wonderland model or not.

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    #13283
    Malgus
    Malgus
    Survivalist
    member8

    Tolik,

    Look, eugenics predates the rise of National Socialism. They adopted it, not the other way around. It goes all the way back to Plato. It was practiced by Rome, Athens, Sparta… in modern times, the idea was refined by Sir Francis Galton, with support from none other than Charles Darwin himself. Charles Davenport, a scientist, took it mainstream 30 years before anyone ever heard of National Socialism or a little Austrian Corporal named Adolph…

    We breed all sorts of animals for desirable traits – coloration, strength, size, speed, intelligence, musculature, etc. Humans are not exempt from this just because we are self-aware. And, as much as you don’t like hearing it, we have been practicing eugenics for thousands of years on our own, as I explained earlier.

    What I think you dislike is the Almighty State meddling in it as a formal policy. Hence, your pejoratives.

    However, I find it again darkly funny that most folks who have serious issues with the Almighty State meddling with eugenics as a formal policy have absolutely no problem with the Almighty State providing for the stupid, the sick, the weak, the “underprivileged”, etc, as a formal policy, which is the exact same thing as eugenics, except in reverse.

    By providing for the stupid, the sick, the weak, etc, you ensure their survival so they can pass on their undesirable traits and, since the low and mediocre will always outnumber the outstanding, it will also ensure that there are huge numbers of low and mediocre and very few outstanding.

    It’s called “regression towards the mean”. And it’s what is happening to us right now.

    Folks think that there are thousands, if not millions, of Miltons and Einsteins in pauper’s graveyards all over the world and they wail “if they only had a chance”. Yeah, well, that very subject has been studied. Turns out, it’s a fallacy. Most times, if you are born stupid and poor, marry stupid and poor, then your kids will be stupid and poor. Equality at the point of a bayonet negates this temporarily, but remove the bayonet and things quickly shake out very closely to what they were before the bayonet ever showed up…

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

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