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    2016 Iowa Primary Results

    I’ve heard on the radio (but haven’t independently verified) that Iowa voters chose Barack Obama, both in 2008, and again in 2012. This year’s Iowa primary cast a total of 188,280 votes, of which 186,874 were cast for various Republicans, leaving 1,406 cast for the three Democrats. In other words, all three Dems together received slightly more than 0.7% of the total.

    Despite all the repetitions of percentage breakdown for the Dem results by the nooz services (“statistical dead heat”), and Mme. Hitlary’s effusive thanking “the tens of thousands of Iowa voters who came out to caucus,” she and her alleged competitors, collectively, got fewer votes than every Republican in the race but Jim Gilmore (who is he, anyway?) Is this a significant change? You tell me.

    Also, Mr. Trump, despite all the hoopla and predictions, ended up Number 2. D’ya s’pose this had anything to do with his happy assurances about how well he can “work with” Pelosi and Schumer?

    Cry, "Treason!"

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    #47044
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    I don’t know how they do things in Iowa but I’m guessing the Democrat side must have a closed system of some sort that limits who can go to the caucus maybe? The other thing is it is beyond arrogant of the Hildebeast to declare victory with a margin of only 4 votes over Bernie. Whether true or not I don’t know but there are reports of Hillary supporters voting in the Republican caucus for Rubio so as to boost him vs Trump and Cruz. Politics truly is a dirty business.

    I’m up for election at Town Meeting next month but I’m running unopposed. No need to campaign.

    #47045
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    Rand Paul suspends his presidential bid.

    #47046
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    Rick Santorum suspends his presidential bid.

    MB, I do think that some Dems are jumping ship, Hilary emails are killing her.

    #47047
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    Not over till the fat lady sings ,

    #47048
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    The dirty tricks are all over the place. A rather ambiguous news wire story about Ben Carson got turned into tweets by the Cruz hierarchy that he was leaving the campaign trail and was out of the race. And they then “hoped” in their tweets that a number of the Carson supporters would vote anyway – for Cruz (JUST as the caucuses were about to start). Cruz himself was quite non-committal at first, but once at least some of the networks started calling it what it was – clear dirty politics just hours before the caucus voting – he THEN issued a late apology, that appeared deeply sincere and almost heartbroken. What a bunch of Bravo Sierra. Then Carson still finished ahead of some of the candidates still in the race, but he is not even being mentioned in commentary and “reporting” about the future – even though he’s still in. They’re doing what they did with Ron Paul particularly in 2012, when he was literally left out of a lineup of the top four or five candidates, and a low-ranked (in polling) candidate was substituted in his place – as if he wasn’t even in the race.

    The media and the parties are so clearly in full cooperation mode it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. But almost nobody bothers to even study the issues, positions, etc. The Administration has been minimizing Hillary’s emails, we’ve heard NOTHING from DOJ, and the FBI is really angry, according to supposedly reliable inside reports. The fix is in, we just don’t know what it is yet. We’ll know in November – or later, depending on whether the Electoral College has some “problems,” or the entire thing gets thrown into Congress. And that last possibility is quite possible – we could have a Republican President, selected by Congress, for at least four years (probably no longer). We thought the screams were loud when Bush won the Electoral College, but Gore won the popular vote. Wait until a Republican House of Representatives chooses the next president. No one will care that it’s happened twice before, or that it’s specified in the Constitution (12th Amendment) – it will be reported as a stolen election by the Republicans, and all heck will break loose – even worse, if the following Congress is no longer dominated by the Republicans.

    So for me, I don’t really put much stock in the primaries, and virtually none in the polls. I truly do believe that the fix is already in. We’ll know in a year when somebody places a hand on a Bible, or Quran, or a stack of Mad Magazines from the glorious, socialist 60s. In the meantime, we’ll see “surprising” changes in who’s “ahead” perhaps, but I consider it meaningless.

    #47050
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    Not over till the fat lady sings.

    Oh, PLEASE! I don’t think I could stand hearing Hillary sing! :-)

    #47099
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    In answer to the topic question: No.

    Reasoning: Carly Fiorina finished ahead of some candidates that were on stage at the Republican “debate” last night. But she was skillfully erased from the lineup from that debate. Ben Carson was VERY skillfully aced out of a better finish in Iowa by a highly coordinated bid to steal his votes for Ted Cruz’ gain. All 1500 precinct workers were almost simultaneously notified of him “dropping out” of the campaign, shortly after the CNN story, and nobody from the Cruz campaign even thought of the idea to maybe check out the story to see if a candidate would REALLY drop out right as the caucus process was proceeding?!? Yeah, right.

    AT the debate last night, Ben Carson was again severely marginalized in talk time and substantive debate topic discussion. In multiple stories this morning, you’d have to work hard to even find out that he was on the stage, especially in “recaps” of the debate.

    Am I a Fiorina fan? Not at all. Am I a Carson fan? Of them all, he certainly seems to get more integrity points than anyone else on that stage, and at this point, I’m weighting that very heavily. – but that doesn’t matter. The point is that it’s all political theater. The outcome has already been decided through a combination of endless “polls” that subtly tell us who’s “leading,” and therefore who has any chance of being “electable,” and therefore who NOT to vote for. But wait? We haven’t even voted yet (except a few Iowans who were lied to AT the caucus points, according to many witnesses, IN Caucus speeches, about Carson having dropped out, so vote for Cruz). The polls drive who gets into the rigged non-debates, and who gets airtime and substantive questions (of which there are few – most are gossip questions about character assassination). One by one or two, they start dropping out as campaign contributions are used up and stop flowing in.

    And THEN cometh the tiny State of New Hampshire. Only the second primary. And we’re told it could potentially be ALL OVER by the time those votes are counted, and we all know who the front runners are, and yada, yada, yada. But heck – they may string this out a little bit, and let us see what happens in the so-called “SEC” Super Tuesday set of primaries, but then it WILL be all over! And already about half the candidates have packed up and gone home, defeated by “their” own Party-“News” Media Complex.

    And that is how a Constitutional Republic has been dismantled, along with the 1913 triple whammy of the Fed, the income tax, and the direct election of senators, thereby further weakening states’ rights after the massive Abraham Lincoln blow a half century earlier. Stack the Supreme Court and it’s a fait accompli.

    So no. Any “change” from Iowa was not significant. It was simply all part of the process to winnow the false field, keep up the false narrative of a democratic process, and string out the false illusion of a constitutional republic in front of an ignorant (willful as well as by design) public.

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