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    Toby C
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    #51116
    wildartist
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    I agree that this euphoria, thinking that a new leader who seems to espouse our Constitutional form of govt–will be our savior–is extremely dangerous. It could all turn upside down in a few hours. Do not be mesmerized into complacency. If anything, it has given us a few years (or months) of reprieve in which to continue to strengthen OURSELVES and our situation. And mindset, bracing for the storm to come.
    The world is in a very volatile state, ready to erupt on many fronts. Hatred and excuses for violence are becoming more open. Take, for example, a keynote speaker in the recent virtually pornographic “Women’s March” in DC (I am a woman therefore can criticize it LOL)–she had tortured and raped a man years ago. Her excuse was her ‘marginalized young life.” Sorry, but I was very poor and abused and hungry and enslaved in hard work for many decades, and never killed or tortured anyone. Made my own career in a man-dominated field without whining or needing govt help. And work with compassion with the less fortunate in this country and overseas.
    As Selco so wisely points out–from bitter experience: Do not let the euphoria deceive us. Bad times are ahead. We can only depend on ourselves, our families, our group and on God.

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    #51128
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Excellent article by Selco, as usual…

    We have been here before. But nobody remembers.

    Selco, if you are reading this, might want to check out this article about where we have been, and where we are going…

    It is worth your time. Trust me.

    https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #51129
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    Wildartist, I had the same reaction reading Selco’s latest. It FEELS good right now to finally have somebody in high places, saying and doing many of the things we’ve been hoping and praying for, for a long, long time. But there is danger there too, and only time will really tell what his motives will turn out to have been – and how successful he will be, regardless of which way that goes. The opposing forces have had many, many decades to hone their skills, and are exceptionally well organized and coordinated in a way that generally does not LOOK like it all fits together as well as it does. I also see it as, at best, a temporary reprieve. Time to repair, replenish, add to, and generally improve our own situations – physically, emotionally, and spiritually. We’ll be glad we did. Trust almost no one completely, and be very selective and cautious with those you do.

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

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    #51131
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    Malgus,

    It is worth your time. Trust me.

    Wow! You apparently posted that moments after I started my response to Wildartist, so I just saw it – and read (most of) it. As I have more time, I will go back and do more than half-skim/half-read it, so I get it all. There are so many quotes I’d love to lift out of it for illustration, but that’d result in a post here that would be simply insanely long. Not to suggest it’s the best or most important, but just to set a critically important tone, I picked out the following:

    Weatherman had f***ed themselves. They’d abandoned the Black Panthers, who now looked down on them. They were leading nobody. They could have made a difference with the organization of SDS, but they’d set it on fire to build Weatherman. And now they’d decided they weren’t going to kill people any more.

    So if you’re a radical who’s willing to kill, but decide you won’t… what does that leave? How long can you keep bombing bathrooms until it gets boring?

    Those that weren’t adults or nearly so in the late 60s and early 70s, simply do not know what is in that article, and would likely find it non-credible. I know nothing about that 451 site, the backgrounds and beliefs of those behind it. I just know that the article itself is profoundly, and urgently accurate. And virtually nobody will see it, let alone spend the time to read it. Avoid it at your own peril – it shows just how incredibly well the MSM and the textbook creators have done their jobs. Don’t believe in huge, successful conspiracies? One can’t unless one is presented with the evidence – that article is it. And a few of us around here are still living witnesses. The “enemy” is much larger and more diverse than almost anyone has any idea – and they’ve had decades more to organize and refine it. And they’re still largely underground.

    How you came across that article, I have no idea. But much thanks for it. It’s now copied in its entirety on my hard drive – backed up daily.

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

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    #51137
    Malgus
    Malgus
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    Malgus,

    It is worth your time. Trust me.

    Wow! You apparently posted that moments after I started my response to Wildartist, so I just saw it – and read (most of) it. As I have more time, I will go back and do more than half-skim/half-read it, so I get it all. There are so many quotes I’d love to lift out of it for illustration, but that’d result in a post here that would be simply insanely long. Not to suggest it’s the best or most important, but just to set a critically important tone, I picked out the following:

    Weatherman had f***ed themselves. They’d abandoned the Black Panthers, who now looked down on them. They were leading nobody. They could have made a difference with the organization of SDS, but they’d set it on fire to build Weatherman. And now they’d decided they weren’t going to kill people any more.

    So if you’re a radical who’s willing to kill, but decide you won’t… what does that leave? How long can you keep bombing bathrooms until it gets boring?

    Those that weren’t adults or nearly so in the late 60s and early 70s, simply do not know what is in that article, and would likely find it non-credible. I know nothing about that 451 site, the backgrounds and beliefs of those behind it. I just know that the article itself is profoundly, and urgently accurate. And virtually nobody will see it, let alone spend the time to read it. Avoid it at your own peril – it shows just how incredibly well the MSM and the textbook creators have done their jobs. Don’t believe in huge, successful conspiracies? One can’t unless one is presented with the evidence – that article is it. And a few of us around here are still living witnesses. The “enemy” is much larger and more diverse than almost anyone has any idea – and they’ve had decades more to organize and refine it. And they’re still largely underground.

    How you came across that article, I have no idea. But much thanks for it. It’s now copied in its entirety on my hard drive – backed up daily.

    This isn’t the only place I hang out, you know… :)

    I find pearls among the swine, from time to time…

    Thing is, the Weather Underground came close… and they are still there, albeit in a different name.

    Same enemy as they always have been… just with a new paint job…

    I am afraid that – no matter what we do, including doing nothing – our trajectory is unchangeable. Yes, things are looking bright and shiny, and I hope they truly do stay that way… but… I am not going to hold my breath.

    The economic problems we had on Jan 19th are the same problems we had on Jan 21st… still have right now.

    The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1

    #51161
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    Brulen
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    The blacks have abandoned the white world since Trump was elected. They don’t trust the libs. They don’t believe in the USA anymore. The message from Trump to them has been you won’t be handed a silver spoon. Trump should have called the Feds down on Chicago the minute he got into office, but he will eventually. Tanks on the streets in Chicago would be a graphic display of power. Trump is pragmatic.

    #51162
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    Brulen
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    Malgus,

    Psychologically the blacks are already in The Purge. President Trump is one of the New Founding Fathers.

    Specifically The Purge – Election Day. 3 movie series.

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    #51166
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    GeorgiaSaint
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    I have to keep reminding myself that we’re literally only 14 DAYS into the new Trump presidency. Congress is tied up with wrangling over Trump nominations rather than any “regular” (whatever that is) business, and we really have no idea what effects we’ll be seeing that will be truly long term. But with that in mind, I’m suspecting that we’re long-term no better off now than we were on November 7th. If Hillary had won (and taken a majority of both houses of Congress with her), we’d simply end up codifying the official end of the Republic. Here pick to the Supreme Court (and any subsequent picks, since Ruthie would likely finally step down had Hillary won) would ensure the longevity of that codification process.

    But instead, the coin was tossed and the OTHER side of that same coin came up – Trump was declared the victor. And the nation erupted, along with the whole world, who bought into the media blasts about who/what Donald J. Trump is. Who the heck REALLY knows – yet? Still, the fact is, the resurfaced 60s/70s radicals are back out in force in their various costumes (be it black-clad ninjas, or REVCOM.US sign-holding “protestors” (read: “anarchists”), or whatever, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bill and Bernardine finally come back “out” and re-form the Weatherpersons, along with an attempted resurrection of Saul Alinsky and the other half of the Cloward-Piven duo (Frances Fox Piven is still alive and spewing VERY well, thankyouverymuch). Oh – and don’t let me forget BLM – that link has been proven by the rare mistakes by the MSM as they briefly showed photos of the REVCOM.US signs at Ferguson’s and Philly’s “spontaneous” <gag!> protests.

    Either the radicals now win by destroying everything, or The Donald stomps a jack-boot on the necks of the entire US through police actions that effectively turn this into a police state. Then CWII breaks out. The Republic is dead anyway. Trump may be King for a Day, but he sure ain’t going to be king for more than four years – if he lasts that long. Eight years? I can’t currently imagine it. That doesn’t mean I don’t hope he’s far more successful than what I expect he can be (or not), it’s just what seems like the most realistic outcome. After all, we are discussing Selco’s latest article (“If I was in America, I would….? “).

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #51167
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    Brulen
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    GS …

    What
    Bush used to ask …not jr. but daddy: is the glass half empty or half full. Every time President Trump comes into contact with the enemy he blows them away. He’s forcing his appointments down their throats, he’s making a judgement about the terror threat demos refused to make. Hes sanctioned Iran. Remapping the financial system. He’s keeping his promises. In only 14 days the country has started to change. It’s amazing. Even the navy seals drove thru Kentucky flying a Trump banner the other day. What we observe here is a fight where his opponent has two black eyes and a concussion in the first round. They haven’t layed a glove on Trump. At this rate the demos are looking like a KO in 2. As for the financial system collapsing, it could but Trump wouldn’t be blamed. It’s the demos with the lies, the irrationality and twisted logic. As power plays go the demos don’t have a dog in this fight. Complete disarray. You almost have to feel sorry for them, They had their crooked day and now it’s over. 90 seconds to live. Complete loss of situational awareness. Ding ding ding.

    :-)

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    #51169
    Tolik
    Tolik
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    Any time the electorate goes against the popular vote , which is their right to do so , you have a lot of screaming , threats , and whining . Especially in the beginning . People learn to get over it , pretty much because the grudgingly admit defeat . Not voter defeat , but grudgingly admit , that the people dont elect the president , never have , and get on with their lives . They screamed when Bush was selected over Gore . It died down , and he got 8 years . Too early to tell . Trump has many enemies , he also has as many allies and supporters , the left had better seriously reconsider any ideas about assassination , because his supporters are willing to start shooting liberals , civil war . Many ‘ worse ‘ people have been elected , we still survive , and will continue to do so .

    #51170
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    Brulen,
    I pretty much see it as you described it above. The problem is that the “low information voters” buy into the “news” media BS, and the wild card is what they will ultimately happen based on what the hidden-agenda Republicans in Congress do, along with what the “news” media feeds the public.

    Probably the only disagreement I have with your post is whether Trump will be blamed if the economy takes a dive (I believe that’s already baked into the cake beyond anything Trump can do in 48 or 96 months). The media and those in the Republican Party seeking to unseat Trump in the 2020 election will do their dead level best to pin that all on Trump – pointing to the false Obama numbers that “show” a nice recovery in progress (DOW 20k, falsely low unemployment, etc). I do not underestimate the power of the “news” propaganda media to sway this country. The majority in this nation do NOT seek out alternative sources of information like we do (or they consider Huffpo and “The View” to be their alternative sources, where they see “confirmation” that their view is right.

    Am I thrilled at what Trump’s already accomplished and is doing? Absolutely (with one lone exception being the specific Dakota Access decision). While I don’t like that one exception, it doesn’t even come close to spoiling the overall radical job he’s doing – unlike any previous President ever.

    They screamed when Bush was selected over Gore . It died down , and he got 8 years .

    Yes, but what did Baby Bush deliver? MASSIVE debt, the Patriot Act, etc., etc., etc. He was a Democrat’s dream President – they just couldn’t admit it in public – that would only further demonstrate that George Wallace was right – “there’s not a dimes worth of difference….”

    I agree – Trump is like nothing else we’ve ever seen in the White House. Whether it will turn out well or not is much too soon to tell. As I said, it’s only been 14 days (now 15), and we haven’t seen what Congress is going to do yet at all, due to the confirmation games being played on both sides. Heck – the Republicans still insist on calling it the “nuclear option” (I’m surprised they aren’t even calling it the “nuke-u-ler” option). If they were REALLY serious about it, they’d have reframed it as the Harry Reid option, since that was HIS baby last go around! Congress is still a huge wild card for Trump. And the courts are already beginning to throw monkey wrenches into the works. Still, I’m cheering for Trump thus far – didn’t want him, but every other option available was worse.

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #51171
    wildartist
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    Don’t forget a Federal Judge in the PNW (Oregon?) has already voided the moratorium on Islamic immigrants…the battle has begun. And from what I hear, the RINOs in power are backing away from reversing Obamacare. Trump is not a dictator and cannot do everything he wants. And not everything we want. The left is indeed solidly organized and entrenched, while conservatives tend to be individualistic as someone pointed out in the “Days of Rage” post. I am a pessimist and do not see the next four years ending well. At least not what we wish it to be. And by then, I have no doubt the Liberals will have the voting well-rigged to avoid another Trump-style victory. Still prepping…

    #51172
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    Yep!

    GS
    "Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

    #51173
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    Brulen
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    We go to the mattresses then if the Donald isn’t successful. I would take CNN as an example, it’s ratings have sunk below Nickolodeons. Trump boycotted them and the Nytimes. The left isn’t solidly entrenched. Charles schumer for instance has a dark shadow in NY – the junior demo senator Gillibrand. She ran as a conservative lib in upstate and became a turncoat. Her previous voters are not going to forget ( ever). The economic recovery in NY is built on high taxes and shifting money around. Anybody thinks President Trump is a dictator they should try Cuomo. How do they eventually pay for all this stuff in Nys??? Debt is vulnerabity and our new Republican President knows it better than any other politician in government. The demos have already forgotten the unions standing behind Trump in the WH when he sighed the executive order on nafta and killed Obama’s TPP deal. Ten ways into the trap for demos – only one way out. Knaw off a leg… Or two.

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