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dmarie – yes I agree. But we must understand that Selco and Jay have their own lives and we are not paying to be able to speak so wonderfully with each other. Perhaps they are surprised by the big response to this new forum. Patience is not my best character trait. But, I think it is called for here. I totally agree with the yak, yak of politics as you say. Move on – how to deal with results. We have enough talking heads around us. Seem like a very practical person. Fellow plant/garden lover here. Yeah you for your post.