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Brulen
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The people or oligarchy in positions of power in the US may not want a collapse but its here anyways. If it wasn’t already an accepted fact this shtf group and dozens like it wouldn’t exist. The real tin foil brigade are the crazies who voted for Obama in Two separate elections. As long as the money is flowing in predictable ways to the party in power people want to believe the economy is running smoothly. The evidence shows exactly the opposite. We have a government out of control and a bureacracy spending trillions of dollars created out of thin air to cover it up. There is no amount of tax revenue that will cover future debts. In historical terms the US has already collapsed and we’re living in a fantasy world.