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MB, Like I have posted before that in a collapse of the system many from the cities will go to rural areas and some will be very bad people that will kill for nothing. You are right that many in the rural will have a problem at the beginning but will fight back.

MB the problem is that all the states that you names are armed but by the gangs and criminals which will be hard to stop once the SHTF time. They will kill just to kill and there will be no one there to help.