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<div class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>74 wrote:</div>“The failure of any one of these will bring about the collapse of the other 2 within weeks perhaps even days, that in turn will bring about the collapse of civilization as we know it. not believing it will happen is not going to stop it from happening”- lonewolf

Well it took 500 years of diminished central control for the Roman Empire to end. It was more of a transition to localized power and authority more than anything else. Rome ultimately lost it’s tax and resource base. As Whirly often says “The Slow Grind”

If the grid fails that is entirely a different matter.

yes, the power grid is the weak link, if that goes, well I’ve heard a sheeple say during a minor power cut “its like living in the dark ages”! just imagine how they will feel when it goes off for good. most will not cope and the suicide rate will climb, add in starvation, disease and dehydration and the corpses will soon stack up. maybe I’m looking forward to it, maybe not, but at least it will be different, I have never liked modern life, people have become nasty and rude with no redeeming features and I don’t have anything to do with them, or as little as I have to. sure it will be hell for anyone who lives in a city when the power goes off and the food stops being delivered, but we need a reduction in the population numbers and a clean out of the gene pool, lets get rid of the hangers on, the lazy and the benefit scroungers, post SHTF if people don’t work to survive they don’t survive its as simple as that.if it takes SHTF to accomplish that then so be it.

British Survivalist.