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lonewolf, I believe that the population in the U. S. and Europe is minus most of the WW2 generation and has grown soft. You need to be careful who you tell about you preparing and that you are storing food and water. They will come in a SHTF time and do whatever it takes to get it from you.

tukie2, My parents are the same. They are saving a lot of food but not water. I am the one saving the water for them. Need to get a well if you can and a good water filter.

74, My sister is also to the left and lives in a lift wing zone (Key West). I also think if the SHTF hits I would not see her.