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Malgus
Malgus
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@ 74,

Those are all good examples but not of recidivis.

The original argument was about having felons have their rights – all of them – restored upon their release.

You brought up the recidivism rate. I countered that the number of felons in prison would diminish substantially if we stopped making felons out of people for stupid reasons or for violating some regulation instead of violating criminal law where there is a clear victim… which goes directly to the recidivism rate.

We just aren’t where what you are describing can happen.

That’s just it. We WERE where what I am describing was happening… prior to NFA34, prior to “The War on Drugs”, prior to “The Immigration Reform Act of 1965″, prior to Prohibition, prior to all the alphabet agencies being established and their resultant mission creep…

We can be there again. What’s doubly irritating is that we CAN be there, but people don’t want liberty. They wouldn’t know what to do with real freedom. We have been corrupted beyond saving – the only way real freedom and liberty work – the way we had it originally – is if we have a moral, homogenous society… then there would be no need for more and more intrusive laws, regulations, etc…

And the only way that can happen… is if we do away with the current system…. and the only way that happens, is if something catastrophic happens, along with the resultant bloodshed…

There is an argument here… not the “YOU SUCK!” kind of argument, but the “What will we do after SHTF?” kind of argument… these things can be reasoned now, before nasty things happen… who knows who will be left after SHTF? Whoever they are, they will be the ones who put everything back together again… and, hopefully, they will use us as an example of what not to do…

So, discussing this… arguing this… is worthwhile…

The wicked flee when none pursueth..." - Proverbs 28:1