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@Selco and Nwlawman:

Nice saying. My grandfather used to say (and now overused by my father), “Old age and treachery will overcome youth and exuberance every time.” Of course it is a modified proverb, but since it was along the same lines I thought add it here.

I think I would have to agree with Malgus on many things that he said…. Which kind of scares me a bit. Even with regard to the criminal thing. If we actually made prison a place where it was a punishment and not a boot camp to make criminals better, it might actually work. Now someone coming out of prison is just a better criminal that society shuns, thus forcing them back into criminal activity to earn a living. It is a horrible cycle that we have created.

As for gun control, it is as most have said. It is the government’s way to turn citizens into subjects.