#23100
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we have two different set of “mindframe” and “scenario”
first scenario…
SHTF in slow motion ( economic degradation / depression, social unrest, etc )
in this scenario we have a chance to survive in the city ( like Selco did few decade ago )
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the second scenario…
SHTF struck us like a thunder
nuclear war
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i know… many of us nearly forget
( or maybe doesn’t believe that global nuclear war are imminent
and still convince that our gov can stop it )
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that’s why i have different plan on different scenario
if we must choose what the biggest threat if we are in city
from nuclear war, economic collapse, social unrest or other “conventional” war
our biggest and toughest to deal with are nuclear war
because we don’t have an experience about it before ( or never heard before )
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nuclear war are difficult to understand
because its different with “conventional” war
it’s trigger, timing and magnitude are way-way different
in conventional war, we have a year ( at least few month ) to prepare
and few week to make a decision to stay or flee
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in nuclear threat we only have days
to make a decision to “evacuate” our family
so it’s a matter of hour vs days we are talking about
the bad news are we only have hours, after the first strike no matter where it take place
every nuclear capable country, they have hard choice… to strike now… or few hour later
no matter what … there is no turning back
whether your country strike first or last… there will be the same… everything toast
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in conventional war we can escape in a matter of days
even we can escape on foot and hide somewhere ( in abandoned house, in the rubble,etc )
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but in nuclear strike, we pray that we are not in the wrong time and in the wrong place
even the deepest bunker still have to deal with post nuclear strike ( radiation )
the only safe place are at least 50 km from the near city, military installation or public utility
so we still have lot of choice… but limited time
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but how to convince our family to evacuate in this such limited time ?
( if they didn’t believe the strike will happened… or to avoid psychological stress for kids )
there is many way, one of them are take a insidental “picnic”
or make “sudden agenda” to goes to grand pa, grand ma or other relatives in the village
and we pray that… in that day, we have unavoidable trip to village or our relatives ( which is safe place )
so we don’t have to argue with our wife or kids about this trip
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in this scenario, we have tough decision to pick only few “posession” that we can carry
we can pick which have multi function and its effectiveness
if we are forced to make new life, at least we have something to easier our life ( even thrive because we have it )
and we don’t want lot of question or lot of busy in prepare them ), so the list are :
1. document and copy of that ( in two separate case or bag )
2. cash ( and lot of coin or little denomination bill )
3. gold and silver ( this is the only liquid asset that we can carry by bag )
ATM, check book, mobile / internet banking are useless because it’s require “third party” to make transaction done
4. cellphone / smartphone, laptop, flash disk or removable hard drive
5. basic health care or emergency KIT
6. portable solar cell ( 10-50 Watt ) + SLA battery / deep cycle, and we can have mini version of it in BOB
7. flash light ( at least 3 in different form and size )
8. lighter, match and candle ( at least 3 in different form and size )
9. portable multiband radio ( FM, AM, SW )
10. manual tool ( wrench, screwdriver, rope, saw, drill, hand air pump, etc )
without them we cannot fix our car or start new life from zero if we are forced to
11. few clothes ( enough for limited trip… to avoid a lot of “busy” packing and loading if we carry lot of clothes… we can buy or barter it later if we need to have )
12. and of course water and food just enough to 1-3 day trip
( dont’ worry, in rural or even suburban area local market or store still available…
even after actual nuclear strike are happened ) or we can buy / barter directly with local farmer or even our own relatives who have farmland
village or rural area are more “shockproof” ( by electric disruption, supply disruption, nuclear strike in city, economic collapse, social unrest in city, etc ). so we still have “time” to act in village
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because of lot of thing that we will carry ( even they are only a portion of what we have )
we still need to “categories” them, or make it a special pack
1. Asset pack ( cash, gold, few silver )
2. High Priority bag… or Bug Out Bag
this is only pack that we can carry if we are forced to pick which is higher priority
( document, cash, gold, silver, multitool, flashdisk, flashlight, 1 or 2 gas lighter, smartphone, AA, Li ion 18650 rechargeable battery and 1-5 W mini solar cell ), 1 pair of clothes and few food + water )
3. Health care and emergency KIT pack
4. electronic pack ( radio, laptop, etc )
5. manual tool pack ( wrench, saw, etc )
6. electricity pack ( 10-50 W solar cell, SLA battery, inverter )
7. clothes bag
8. food and water pack
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we have 8 different pack that we prepared before
so in actual evacuation we can pick and load in less than 10 minutes