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Novus Ordo
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Anyone see “The Colony” Season 1 (Discovery 2009)?  They made two different engines (one generator, one diesel truck) run off of syngas provided by a gasifier from heated wood.  Also in “The Road” the bad guys that came out the tunnel looked like they were driving a similar vehicle.  And this is after the normal fuel sources are dispersed which may still take some considerable time.  Ingenuity will result in differing modes of transportation which the gangs will then steal.  Unless you’re in the vast reaches of a huge area and away from roads (hiked in, ATV, snow machine, horseback) you’ll probably eventually be found by someone.  Desperation will probably send all people far and wide in search of food.

Namelus – to avoid (or try to) anyone “liberating” your preps one idea is to set up “decoy preps” that you’re using at the time.  Move small amounts of preps from your hidden locations to the decoy site and then when they come in and find it they’ll think that’s all you have – remember, 97% will only have the minimums so unless they have a reason to keep looking, they’ll believe that’s all you have.  Probably a good idea to keep preps separate if possible so if one is found, not all is lost.

Agree with the gang getting military grade gear – as can anyone else at the nearest National Guard post or other if it’s overrun or abandoned.  No doubt even some military members will trade gear and/or vehicles for necessities if a last resort.

Good idea on getting to know the heirarchy and some information about local gangs just in case.  With all but the most secluded areas, everyone will eventually have to deal with unsavory characters – sometimes whether you want to or not.

Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
- Thomas Paine